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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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good evening Fade to Black today is

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Thursday May 18 2023 I'm your host Jimmy

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church and tonight

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very special show Dr Bruce Cornett is

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with us for the first time and tonight

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we're going to be talking about ice ages

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in ancient pyramids and this is going to

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be an interesting conversation tonight

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he received his ba degree in biology and

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a master's degree in Paley and botany

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from the University of Connecticut he

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graduated from Penn State in 1977 with a

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PhD in geology and

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pollinology I don't even know what that

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is what's pollinology tonight we're

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going to find out his websites and all

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of his published works are below and

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over on our website and I would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black Dr Bruce Cornett and he's right

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there Bruce how are you this evening I'm

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fine Jimmy thank you

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um pelonology is the study of fossil

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spores in pollen

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if somebody's got to do it well they

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they are well preserved in rocks sure

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um all the plants that have existed for

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the last uh 400 million years have

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produced different types of spores in

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pollen so you can determine the age uh

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by extracting the pollen and spores from

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the rocks of uh and then comparing them

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with the standard just like tree wings

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and that's what I did when I worked in

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the oil industry for 11 years I was a

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palinologist looking through a

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microscope they would give me the slides

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I would tell them what age they're

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Drilling in wow wow I already learned

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something okay before we get started uh

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uh Bruce you get the First Time guest

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disclaimer okay next time you're on the

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show you don't get it but you get it

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tonight and here it is it's just you and

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I having a conversation on my couch as

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friends and where that conversation

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starts it starts where it ends it ends

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but we're gonna end his friends there

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you go agree click right agree okay good

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good so pollinology

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um are you one of those guys and I love

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this right or gals that can walk up to

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uh the side of a canyon wall and go okay

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yeah okay that's 300 million years ago

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that's about 150 million this is what's

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going on are you one of those guys that

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that can date like that yes that's it's

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always impressed me in fact I was able

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to uh show that the rocks in basins up

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and down the East Coast that formed when

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Africa and North America broke apart

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um uh 200 million years ago that right

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when the Atlantic Ocean began to form uh

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those rocks extend into the Jurassic up

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until my work they had been thought to

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be just late Triassic or older than 200

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million years and I showed that they uh

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the ones on the top are equal to the of

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oceanic basalts that were forming in the

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so this the USGS had to go and redo all

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their Maps because of me

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you know when I was a kid

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um this is what happened uh uh eighth

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grade uh Indianapolis I'm taking Indiana

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history right required right eighth

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grade and and the teacher said this to

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us and we're going to be talking a lot

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about this tonight but this is what

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happened I can't remember his name I

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wish I remember his name and anyway

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had him for a semester he says these

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words he goes

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Indiana

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is half flat half Hills that's because

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we were under a mile of ice and the

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glacier came down and flattened

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everything out and and I went uh what

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and I uh thought about this and and

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looked above me and thought about a mile

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of ice and leveling out

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um you know Indiana and I have never

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forgotten that

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and it was just one of those things it

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was a teacher that said something that

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changed my life I don't think I don't

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think teachers understand uh fully who

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absorbs what and who gets changed but I

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never forgot that and that's exactly the

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situation in North America and around

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the world right right I grew up in

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Connecticut and went to college in New

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Jersey and uh Pennsylvania

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um and so I was I'm very familiar with

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all of the glacial terrain the glacial

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marines that were left behind at the

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edge of the ice sheets that came down

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um you know Graham Hancock and Randall

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Carlson and others have have talked

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about that uh you know that 11 000 BC 10

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500 BC uh end of the last ice age uh

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situation and the the world now is

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understanding more and more about this

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subject which is very important right

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yes how it all fits in and uh scientists

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are beginning to convince archaeologists

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believe it is actually history in the

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making and

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um one of the things that I discovered

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that was part of this conversation

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is that the ancient Egyptians knew a lot

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about the last ice age and egyptologists

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won't can't accept that because they

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can't accept that the first dynasty is

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you know older than the 5 000 years and

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yet they have recorded in the Book of

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the Dead geologic and glacial

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information

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floods at the end of the last ice age

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how is it possible that the Egyptians

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would have known that there were three

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great floods

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at the end of the Meltdown as Graham

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Hancock likes to say in his book

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underworld and he found scientists who

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dated the

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drowning of coral reefs and they'd

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carbon 14 dated them at 14.2 thousand

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eleven point five thousand and seven

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point six thousand years ago

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discovered a graph in the Book of the

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Dead that the Egyptians Drew uh showing

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all of those three major floods people

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think that there was only one great

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flood or maybe two great floods but

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they're really three great floods and

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the Egyptians knew about them

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and in this graph that they generated

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which is quite spectacular because it

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shows the intensity of the graph in on a

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bar graph of the extent of them and they

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show Drew boats on top of the largest

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two uh Mega tsunamis or floods uh the

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central one was the longest one at 11

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500 with a huge boat on top of it with

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ropes being pulled by people on land and

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then you have the bottom one at seven

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thousand six hundred with a smaller boat

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with ropes uh being pulled by people on

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land and it is in a graph that is called

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the egyptologists say it's just

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mythology no it's actually a graph of

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the end of the last ice age what

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happened uh and during the Meltdown and

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there is a a casket of Osiris sliding

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down a slope that goes from upper left

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to lower right in the diagram and when

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point of the uh the flood

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it flattens out and then continues to

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descend further to the next flood it

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flattens out then it continues to

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descend to the bottom of the graph why

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did it flatten out at each of those

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points where there was a mega tsunami

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that they are indicating a major flood

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and that was what I got involved in and

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I discovered when the first evidence of

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Gobekli tapi came out that they were

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actually mapping and and charging the

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decrease in the uh the Earth's rotation

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at the end of the last ice age because

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during the Ice Age

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ages each of them the ice agents were

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100 approximately 108 000 years in

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duration and the interglacials between

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them are approximately 21 600 years in

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duration we're in the Holocene

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interglacial the previous interglacial

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was called the sanghamonian here in

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what is significant is that these

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alternate interglacial glacial

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interglacial glacial going back uh more

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Newark Basin drilling into one of these

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and we recovered 28 000 feet of core

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from Seven Wells and my job as a

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well-side geologist was describe every

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inch of those course so I got to see all

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of the climate cycles that we recovered

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the Earth back then had at least five

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separate overlapping cycles of

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approximately twenty one thousand a

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hundred and five thousand uh and then

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four hundred thousand four hundred and

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twenty thousand years in duration and uh

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the uh 105 000 year cycle you multiply

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that by the uh four and you get the 420

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000 years so it was a very regular types

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of climate Cycles caused by the

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different planets in our solar system

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that affected the shape of the Earth's

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orbit and therefore its distance from

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the Sun and an amount of insulation

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versus cool that the Earth got over

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those periods of time

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and but that's not what happens when you

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get into Ice Age the Ice Age cycles of

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108 000 21 600 alternate and over print

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on those other Cycles which are still

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detectable

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um in the uh in sediments so I wanted to

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know what happened and why did the Ice

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Age form and

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why do the Isis advance and I came to

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Discovery

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that the Earth does not rotate the way

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it does now today the Earth is fixed in

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so that as it uh circles the sun it

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still is pointing the same direction

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thus giving us our four seasons

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uh and opposite opposition on the on the

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hemispheres of the Earth but during the

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Ice Age the Earth appears to have

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and how do I know this you know how how

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could I come to this possible uh crazy

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conclusion

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and it's because of the ice cap forming

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on the Northern North Pole and the South

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Pole

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um being bathed in Sun the ancient

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Egyptians recorded this in Hancock

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reports this in his uh footnotes he says

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that uh the ancient Egyptians say that

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at the South Pole or Antarctica which

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they went to

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um the Sun never set

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whereas at the North Pole the Sun never

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Rose

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how is this possible it's not possible

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well I mean no well

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it it is entirely possible but the only

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way that they could say that

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is if they visited and I think that the

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the and and saw for themselves and

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recorded it this is not science fiction

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this wasn't dreamed up and and recorded

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but but there's also when we go back to

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uh we're gonna Circle back to go back

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litepi by the way it's a very important

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point

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the the evidence of trans-oceanic

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cultures mapping the world multiple

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times

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um before the Russians officially air

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quotes right uh found Antarctica in

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1817. absolutely right the maps of the

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sea Kings absolutely they knew about

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Antarctica thousands of years ago they

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did they did and and those Maps were

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handed down and handed down and and when

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you tie all of this together uh back to

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the edfu building text that you referred

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to

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um in Egypt that's a 10 000 year

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timeline and at the beginning of that

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timeline uh going back uh from When It

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Was Written now it's pushing back to

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around 12 000 BC yes um and if you go

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back that far they are talking about you

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know it could be Antarctica uh it could

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be Atlantis uh no matter what they're

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talking about uh the the founders of

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Egypt it showing up then because of

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something catastrophic and and the flood

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that was uh uh you know caused them to

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leave for more ever they departed from

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this same thing repeated all around the

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world didn't it yes that graph that I

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mentioned from The Book of the Dead

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which is called The Descent of Osiris

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into the underworld

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um nobody it's been in in various books

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they've been published but nobody's

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really explained it until I saw it and I

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realized that that line that the coffin

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Osiris coffin is sliding down represent

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the rate of rotation of the Earth on its

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orbital axis now some people have a

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difficult time understanding that the

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Earth rotates on two separate axes at

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the same time

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uh the solar axis is the one that gives

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us day and night

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but the orbital axis the vertical axis

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is the one that gives us the procession

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of the equinox

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and

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what I discovered is that the Earth was

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rotating uh one complete turn on its

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orbital axis during an ice age

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such that it kept its South Pole

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pointing inside the Earth's orbit and

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its North Pole outside the Earth's orbit

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as it rotated

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now you think about that if the North

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Pole was always further away from the

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Sun than the South Pole

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the North Pole would not have any light

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because the sun would never rise there

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and the ice cap would grow and grow and

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grow whereas the South Pole pointing

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inside the Earth's orbit would never see

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the sun set completely and it would have

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uh very little ice left by the end of

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the Ice Age although we know that

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Greenland preserved its ice during our

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current Holocene interglacial because

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they were able to core that and recover

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800 000 years of of ice cycles

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and both at Greenland and Antarctica

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and that's quite amazing and it's

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through that knowledge and that

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scientific data

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that we I can tell you that the the

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glaciers have repeated over and over and

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over again

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so what is causing the floods

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well okay now I I I'm gonna we're gonna

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Circle back to that because

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it all ties together doesn't it okay so

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we're uh we're gonna Circle back if we

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go to go back Lee Tepe now

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um again the same date is popping up

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um I I think go back Lee Tepe and the

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other uh megalithic sites are on there I

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think are gonna uh show a a long process

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of building I think it's going to be

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thousands of years older which is even

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more exciting but if we stay right there

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ten thousand five hundred BC that is the

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end of the last ice age and they

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deliberately buried Gobekli Tepe and

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abandoned the site and never returned do

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you do you think again it's all the same

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dates you know from different cultures

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around the world but do you think that

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they knew

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right the Builders of Gobekli Tepe knew

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that something catastrophic was on the

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horizon

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I think so but more importantly uh their

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world was changing radically at as the

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Earth began to slow down before it began

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to slow down uh you could look up at the

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sky and see what constellation was

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overhead

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and because the Earth rotated 360

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degrees on its orbit uh you could tell

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uh what time of year it was and based on

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the constellation that preceded the

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sunset and followed the Sun and preceded

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the sun rise and followed the sunset you

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could tell where you were on the globe

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it was basically a built-in natural uh

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Sextant that allowed the Egyptians to

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travel the oceans back then without the

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need of any technology

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they would know exactly where they were

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and

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what is important about Gobekli Tepe is

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when I looked at that for the the

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information then realized that they were

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building one Temple after another after

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another after another

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what do they need more than one Temple

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for if it was for religion purposes

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right

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so what were they measuring

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and um Andrew Collins says that they

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were measuring uh you know the the

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position of the star cygnus or the swan

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yeah and

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I think that's that's correct but more

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importantly

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why did they build a keep on building

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more circular observatories which I call

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them because they ran out of space in in

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the previous one and they didn't want to

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tear it back down it was a record of

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what they were tracking and let's say as

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the Earth began to slow down

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the year length for them the seasons

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would continue to shift

447
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so that they um would be spotting a a

448
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mountain peak uh in at a certain point

449
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and when it was opposite a a

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constellation they would know that

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they've gone One 360 degrees

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okay but if the Earth was slowing down

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in its rotation it would start to take

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longer and longer for that mountain to

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get in that position

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right right right right so what they

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were doing was they when they they had

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that alignment

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they would build a vertical column

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inside that Stone Circle

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representing where that mountain was and

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because why were they tracking that

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because it was the the seasons were

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changing so radically at that time that

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they had had to follow what was

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happening in the animals knew what was

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happening that's why they have animal

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carvings on all of those posts they had

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to know when the the herds would migrate

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because their food and their survival

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was dependent on it

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so that's what I think they were doing

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and when they ran out of room on two in

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circles one inside the other uh and I

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did a series of um uh used the circle as

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a compass and with radiating uh arms

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coming from the center through the

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various posts to see where they were

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pointing in it was a complete 360 degree

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circle that they were measuring as the

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Earth slowed down and I was able to map

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that for the first one and found out

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that it was actually Shifting the the

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time

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um so that you could knew that it it was

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um an increase in the length of the day

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for them or the time of year not so much

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the day because that's the solar axis

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but the length that it took the Earth to

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get it get around to the same Point

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around the Sun our solar year

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um can I uh can I freeze frame this for

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a second sure right there

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um the

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speed of the Slowdown did that affect uh

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the geology of the Earth was the surface

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of the Earth moving did it cause any

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tectonic uh motion no okay now that

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answers that if you were observing the

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stars during the Slowdown period would

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the stars appear to be erratic in place

502
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right but would they appear to be

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erratic with motion

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um probably not be well depends on the

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rate it would it took I was able to

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calculate it took seven thousand years

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for the earth to completely slow down

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and and the angular momentum on it I

509
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mean Earth is a huge mass and to slow it

510
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down from three you know spinning 360

511
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degrees down to not spinning at all

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takes a period of time the real question

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was what was slowing it down how was

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that mechanism working and I've figured

515
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that out and it's all right look yeah

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this is getting better and better okay

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um especially uh I think it was China

518
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that did a press release a couple of

519
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months ago that the Earth's core stopped

520
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spinning for uh for a minute um but

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there are some references in ancient

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texts from a few different cultures

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um around the world Egypt being one

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Sumer being another and others

525
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um around five to six thousand years ago

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uh where the stars were shaking in the

527
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sky and yes and I've always wondered

528
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what they what they were I mean the

529
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stars were obviously shaking it was seen

530
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uh around the world what was causing

531
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that

532
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okay now this is gonna try to hold your

533
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audience into let them understand what I

534
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,080
was able to figure out but if the Earth

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is rotating

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uh as it's moving around in its orbit

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you're going to develop an oscillation

538
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because it's now free to move and the

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earth's core is

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not equal and not spherical it's oblong

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and there is more of the core on the

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southern hemisphere than the Northern

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Hemisphere that means that the southern

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hemisphere is going to be attracted to

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the sun more than the Northern

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Hemisphere and thus that is why the

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Earth during an ice age will rotate like

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the moon does around the earth because

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the Moon is has an eccentric core as

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well and it's always tracking Earth and

551
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thus you'll only see one side of the

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moon well during the Ice Age the same

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thing happened uh with the Earth around

554
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the Sun and you had no Seasons during

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the Ice Age which was very interesting

556
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you just had a huge northern ice cap

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growing and a southern ice cap shrinking

558
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:14,159
but as the Earth was rotating around it

559
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:18,360
took approximately uh five thousand and

560
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:20,460
or 5100 years

561
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:24,960
for the earth to oscillate back and

562
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:27,659
forth on its orbital axis just a little

563
00:26:32,890 --> 00:26:30,360
bit in other words if if it was moving

564
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:32,900
in uh

565
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,840
pointing the the South Pole not exactly

566
00:26:41,289 --> 00:26:39,120
at the Sun but a little bit off to the

567
00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:41,299
right or a little bit off to the left

568
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:44,820
over a 5 000 year period

569
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,500
what is that five thousand year period

570
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:47,880
it's the um

571
00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:50,880
the Mayan long year they knew about this

572
00:26:57,289 --> 00:26:53,820
cycle okay and they knew that at the end

573
00:26:59,930 --> 00:26:57,299
of 2012 that uh they predicts that there

574
00:27:02,450 --> 00:26:59,940
was going to be a major Earth movements

575
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:02,460
and sure enough there were in Indonesia

576
00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:04,380
and Japan

577
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:06,600
um so we did have the events that

578
00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:08,820
happened that they were predicting or

579
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:13,500
tracking and as the Earth oscillated in

580
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:17,580
its rotation it as I said it took uh 5

581
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:20,460
000 revolutions around before to get to

582
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,860
one extreme and then to go back to the

583
00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:24,720
other direction a little bit just back

584
00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:28,380
and forth just a nice little oscillation

585
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:32,460
but if you know about a pendulum when it

586
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:33,360
swings

587
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:37,140
it reaches its maximum extent on one

588
00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:39,419
side and it what it does what it

589
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,100
reverses Direction

590
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,440
comes back and then gets to the other

591
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:45,360
extent and then it reverses direction

592
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:47,880
again correct well the same thing

593
00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:50,820
happens with the Earth during that

594
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:52,380
period of time

595
00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:53,640
but

596
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,460
when it reverse Direction

597
00:28:04,669 --> 00:27:59,120
the Sun

598
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,679
set twice and the sun rose twice and

599
00:28:09,409 --> 00:28:07,200
because it it was a change in angular

600
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:09,419
momentum that caused the oceans to come

601
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,100
out of their basins

602
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,960
and flood the land

603
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:15,480
during the Ice Age the sea level was

604
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,380
between 300 and 400 feet lower than it

605
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:22,080
is today the Continental ice shelves

606
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,820
were exposed

607
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:26,000
many uh

608
00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:28,380
Islands out in the Pacific were

609
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:30,840
continents that were joined together to

610
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:35,039
form your your pants specific continents

611
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:38,580
or land masses at that time

612
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:42,000
but with the low sea level when this

613
00:28:48,669 --> 00:28:46,500
happened this uh shutter I should say it

614
00:28:51,649 --> 00:28:48,679
it would which would have caused the

615
00:28:55,490 --> 00:28:51,659
Stars to to move

616
00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,500
you had the oceans come sloshed back and

617
00:29:00,169 --> 00:28:57,419
forth in their basin

618
00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:00,179
and the Continental uh ice shelves are

619
00:29:05,690 --> 00:29:02,400
kind of those shelves would block that

620
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:05,700
movement onto the continent but when

621
00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:07,559
that water level Rose above the

622
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,240
Continental shells during the Meltdown

623
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:11,520
at the end of the last ice age

624
00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:14,039
guess what

625
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,919
the oceans came up onto the Continental

626
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:19,440
shelves and went into the into the

627
00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:22,260
continents themselves just they ravaged

628
00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:24,419
the continents so you had these enormous

629
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,899
tsunamis which the Egyptians recorded

630
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:29,520
and graft

631
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,220
and published in the Book of the Dead

632
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,760
so that's why you have these huge great

633
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,880
floods during the Meltdown but you don't

634
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:41,039
have records of them during the ice ages

635
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:44,460
because the oceans never got that far

636
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:47,279
uh one of the things that told me that

637
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,380
this was a probably the correct

638
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,260
interpretation is that uh there were uh

639
00:29:57,289 --> 00:29:54,480
those who had studied the geology at the

640
00:29:59,930 --> 00:29:57,299
top of the Andes mountains and they

641
00:30:03,830 --> 00:29:59,940
couldn't understand why they would find

642
00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:03,840
Shoreline deposits with seashells at

643
00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:06,659
that height they it postulated well the

644
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:08,220
mountains must have grown very rapidly

645
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:12,240
now you just need a uh the seed coming

646
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:16,080
out of its Basin and with uh

647
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:19,080
mega tsunami waves that are one to two

648
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:21,299
miles tall just crashing up onto the

649
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:23,100
side of the vandes mountains and

650
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:25,020
carrying with it all of the uh the beach

651
00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:27,960
deposits that's all you'd need

652
00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:31,320
the and that's at 12 000 feet yes yeah

653
00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:34,980
that's at 12 000 feet the uh the same

654
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:39,059
situation uh would have to be this is a

655
00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:44,100
global uh moistening okay so if that's

656
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,440
the case when you drive around like I

657
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,200
live in the Mojave Desert right and

658
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:52,140
we've got the Salt Lakes out here right

659
00:30:59,330 --> 00:30:55,440
the the flat uh here's the morocc lake

660
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,340
bed you know where uh uh the X1 with

661
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,200
rocket plane and you know and all that

662
00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:02,640
stuff would would happen out here at

663
00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:06,440
Edwards that uh those are sea deposits

664
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:09,659
and I that's my guess I'm not a

665
00:31:15,289 --> 00:31:12,120
geologist or anything but but when you

666
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:15,299
drive around through Arizona through New

667
00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:18,600
Mexico uh through Southern California

668
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:22,620
it it was all of that ocean all of the

669
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,279
Rises that uh are around you those look

670
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:29,039
like those used to be Islands to me and

671
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:30,779
then you could see where the water

672
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:32,820
affected the layers

673
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,740
um but I never hear anybody talk about

674
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:37,440
this is that what you're referring to

675
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,260
here was the Mojave Desert once part of

676
00:31:45,649 --> 00:31:42,960
the ocean oh you did have oceans coming

677
00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:45,659
Inland in those areas over long periods

678
00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:47,520
of geologic time back during the

679
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:50,520
Mesozoic the Jurassic Inland Sea that

680
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:52,860
went from the Gulf of Mexico all the way

681
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,140
up to the Arctic and even in the

682
00:31:59,930 --> 00:31:57,840
Cretaceous is Inland Cretaceous sea at

683
00:32:03,470 --> 00:31:59,940
the end of the Cretaceous that went all

684
00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:03,480
that way uh that's why the uh the

685
00:32:09,169 --> 00:32:06,659
megasonami caused by the checksolute

686
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,179
impact crater that ended the dinosaurs

687
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:11,940
uh that wave could travel all the way up

688
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:14,460
into the northern states it was

689
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:17,580
following that sea Lane going that cut

690
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:20,700
through the center of the the country

691
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:22,919
and but that's not the same thing as

692
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:25,980
these Mega tsunamis that I'm talking

693
00:32:32,210 --> 00:32:28,460
about at the end of the Ice Age remember

694
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:32,220
you in order to get those huge tsunamis

695
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,020
to the oceans to come out of their

696
00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:37,039
basins you needed some sort of a change

697
00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:41,100
in uh inertia uh of the way the Earth

698
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:43,080
rotates

699
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:45,240
um and it's it's sort of like driving

700
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:48,600
down the highway uh and uh everybody's

701
00:32:54,289 --> 00:32:50,760
traveling at about 70 miles an hour and

702
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,299
suddenly the uh driver hits the brakes

703
00:32:59,389 --> 00:32:57,360
everybody in the car suddenly lurches

704
00:33:01,789 --> 00:32:59,399
forward and

705
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:01,799
um that that sort of thing is going to

706
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:04,200
happen when the earth that oscillation

707
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:08,159
that I talked about switches over a 5

708
00:33:15,710 --> 00:33:10,440
000 to 5100 year period

709
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:15,720
and um so yeah okay so

710
00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:17,880
um and staying right here

711
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:22,019
if if North America

712
00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:25,260
um all the way up to Canada is under uh

713
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:27,320
a mile of ice

714
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:30,360
and the Ice Age ended at ten thousand

715
00:33:36,169 --> 00:33:34,440
five hundred uh BC or they're about

716
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:36,179
um how long does it take that ice to

717
00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:39,840
melt and where is that water displaced

718
00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:42,779
initially they think that much of the

719
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:45,539
ice a water from the ice was pooled on

720
00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:46,860
top of the ice

721
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:50,279
and you had these huge ice Lakes on top

722
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:53,519
and that there were ice dams that kept

723
00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:54,480
it there

724
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:57,960
and then this is in order to explain how

725
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,659
the sea level could rise rapidly right

726
00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:02,640
three separate times right and then

727
00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:05,399
those eye stamps broke and all of that

728
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,040
water just cascaded into the oceans and

729
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:10,980
raised the ocean sea level

730
00:34:16,210 --> 00:34:13,980
that's what uh they think is how this

731
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:16,220
happened also remember you had those

732
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:19,379
Mega Boulders that were traveled across

733
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,740
Western Northwestern United States

734
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,520
um

735
00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:25,919
where whole you know Boulders the size

736
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:29,399
of buildings were being moved along and

737
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:33,419
and in the uh uh the flat country out

738
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:34,740
there

739
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,159
um and they were great floods and even

740
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:40,800
those floods reached all the way down

741
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:42,780
here into Texas

742
00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:46,399
uh when those ice that I I stands broke

743
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:48,839
is that okay

744
00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:52,440
um I don't want to get too sideways here

745
00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:56,280
um giant rock which is you know not too

746
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,540
far for me

747
00:35:02,210 --> 00:34:59,280
um it's the biggest or second biggest

748
00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:02,220
freestanding rock in the world I think

749
00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:04,740
it's seven eight stories tall it's uh I

750
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:06,839
think it's red granite it's freaking

751
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:10,619
huge but it got there somehow and when

752
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:13,980
you look behind giant rock there are

753
00:35:18,829 --> 00:35:16,140
others not quite as big as giant rock

754
00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:18,839
but there's a lot of very you know two

755
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:23,099
three four story tall Bolder big there

756
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:27,060
but they arrived somehow and all I can

757
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:30,560
visualize Bruce is what kind of water

758
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:34,800
what kind of force is moving something

759
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,180
like this it didn't grow right it it was

760
00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:42,240
moved there yes well imagine that Great

761
00:35:46,030 --> 00:35:43,260
Lakes

762
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,040
suddenly emptying that much water

763
00:35:49,790 --> 00:35:48,480
pouring across the land

764
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:49,800
it would take something of that

765
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,920
magnitude right who Boulders that size

766
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:55,440
uh and you so do you think that happened

767
00:36:00,530 --> 00:35:58,140
in in at the end of the last ice age or

768
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,540
do you think the giant rock is older no

769
00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:02,640
no I'm pretty sure that's probably how

770
00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:04,740
it got there yeah it's what uh uh

771
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,140
Randall Carlson uh was trying to explain

772
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:09,599
to me too that it is possible and when

773
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:11,940
you stand there next to something that

774
00:36:19,609 --> 00:36:15,780
big and now you have to imagine the

775
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:19,619
water right how much of it and and and

776
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,800
how fast was it moving to to get

777
00:36:28,089 --> 00:36:25,200
something like this uh to come from

778
00:36:31,849 --> 00:36:28,099
somewhere else it just must have been

779
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:31,859
catastrophic yep I totally agree

780
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,060
and um but the fascinating part of the

781
00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:39,119
this is recognizing that

782
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:41,820
uh the ancient Egyptians knew about all

783
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:42,780
of this

784
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:46,020
before their first dynasty was ever

785
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,420
acknowledged or recognized

786
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,160
so where did that information come from

787
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:52,320
there must have come from uh previous

788
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:55,560
civilizations or if you go back to the

789
00:37:01,970 --> 00:36:58,380
Kings list for uh Sumerian Kings list

790
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,980
that takes us back uh well into the last

791
00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:03,119
ice age

792
00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:06,300
and certainly and then you also have uh

793
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:09,140
uh Gilgamesh yes

794
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:10,740
the

795
00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:18,420
talk about pyramids but but anyway

796
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:20,520
that's uh when you look at some of these

797
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:21,900
ancient texts

798
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,020
um uh where Orthodox Academia uh wants

799
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,200
us to believe that everything was at

800
00:37:38,569 --> 00:37:34,800
3000 BC Sumerian texts uh uh Egyptian

801
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:38,579
hieroglyphs uh Narmer King Manet the

802
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:41,700
first dynasty uh abidos and and all of

803
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,599
that which is fine but uh the Sumerian

804
00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:48,240
texts and the Egyptian texts refer back

805
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,180
to a far far older time and in some

806
00:37:56,089 --> 00:37:52,800
cases we're going back hundreds of

807
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,099
thousands of years yes um that that to

808
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:58,560
me isn't mythology they didn't have that

809
00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:01,680
kind of imagination uh back then this is

810
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:06,540
based on a real historical uh moments in

811
00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:09,000
time right right well the second part of

812
00:38:14,349 --> 00:38:12,119
this talk which you asked me about was

813
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:14,359
about pyramids

814
00:38:22,609 --> 00:38:18,300
and what I would like to talk about is

815
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:22,619
how uh did those pyramids get built on

816
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,140
Mars who built them

817
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:27,900
is that is are we tying that into the

818
00:38:32,569 --> 00:38:30,660
Sumerian accent I just referenced no it

819
00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:32,579
would be a lot older it would be a lot

820
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:33,720
older

821
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:36,300
um uh millions of years

822
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:40,320
last intergalatial 118 to 120 000 years

823
00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:43,980
ago okay well that would tie into the

824
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:47,339
Sumerian text uh in a couple of ways

825
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:50,640
that 200 000 year period uh certainly

826
00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:52,619
yes it would that would definitely go

827
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,839
back that far

828
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:57,119
um okay let's continue

829
00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:00,300
um uh how did you figure this out

830
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:02,099
okay

831
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,820
um

832
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,280
back in the early 90s I was introduced

833
00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:07,440
to Richard Hoagland

834
00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:12,060
uh I was fascinated uh by uh his study

835
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:14,220
of the face on Mars and the Sedonia

836
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:17,400
complex and I wanted to know as much

837
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:20,280
about how is this for real you know

838
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:22,380
there was a lot of debate back there in

839
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:26,400
the late 80s and early 90s and even uh

840
00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:29,160
John Brandenburg uh he's the one who I

841
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:31,320
think first talked about the face on

842
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:33,300
Mars that he saw because he was working

843
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:35,880
for the government at the time and then

844
00:39:42,349 --> 00:39:38,520
uh Hoagland came along and he

845
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:42,359
capitalized on this and recognized at

846
00:39:48,829 --> 00:39:45,420
least five other monuments surrounding

847
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,839
the face on Mars based on the NASA

848
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:50,760
photographs of course there was a lot of

849
00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:52,740
debate and NASA didn't want people to

850
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:55,320
think that any intelligent life was on

851
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,680
Mars for whatever reason I guess the

852
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,480
same thing that didn't want people to

853
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:02,640
think that an alien spacecraft crashed

854
00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:06,240
in Roswell either right so

855
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:07,859
um

856
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:17,870
they went I went with to visit his his

857
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,800
house and helped him even with his

858
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,320
presentations and I got to see all of

859
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:24,480
his photographs and all of his evidence

860
00:40:31,490 --> 00:40:27,780
and I got copies of his data and I was

861
00:40:35,089 --> 00:40:31,500
literally wanted to know well

862
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:35,099
why he thought that the eighth Berry

863
00:40:44,569 --> 00:40:38,700
Circle and soberry Hill in England

864
00:40:47,450 --> 00:40:44,579
were 14 to 1 versions of the tholas and

865
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:47,460
the crater on Mars because the crater

866
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:50,760
was artificially modified on Mars within

867
00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:53,760
the Sidonia complex it not only has a

868
00:40:59,690 --> 00:40:56,820
tetrahedron built up on its rim and

869
00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:59,700
that's not normal but it had a hill

870
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,119
amount of of rocks piled up on its out

871
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:05,520
Splash apron and that's not normal

872
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:08,520
either and

873
00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:10,440
um

874
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:12,260
so

875
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:16,320
I was I had done a survey in the Walker

876
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,500
River Valley near Pine Bush New York a

877
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,359
Geological Survey because I was

878
00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:23,280
fascinated by what was going on there

879
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:25,800
with all the UAP that people had been

880
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,220
reported I was introduced to Dr Ellen

881
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:32,160
Crystal's book salad Invasion and I

882
00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:33,720
contacted her she took me out in the

883
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:36,119
field and I started seeing all of these

884
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:38,700
crafts coming around and flying into the

885
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:40,680
ground and coming out of the ground now

886
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,599
as a scientist this just

887
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:44,880
didn't sit well with me how is this

888
00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:48,180
possible right I mean are these

889
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:50,940
Illusions are these Holograms Etc

890
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:53,820
and I um

891
00:41:59,810 --> 00:41:58,079
I wanted to know uh what was going on in

892
00:42:02,089 --> 00:41:59,820
this basin

893
00:42:07,010 --> 00:42:02,099
uh Hoagland had said and gave a talk

894
00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:07,020
before the U.N uh on his uh Sedonia 2

895
00:42:11,290 --> 00:42:09,480
complex he called it it's the Aviary

896
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:11,300
Circle and Silver Hill in England

897
00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:13,800
because there were crop circles all

898
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:17,339
around them on these two uh are ancient

899
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:20,220
monuments and he thought that they

900
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,740
represented a smaller version of those

901
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:24,480
features on Mars

902
00:42:30,349 --> 00:42:26,760
okay so he was making a connection

903
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:30,359
between uh aliens making crop circles

904
00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:34,320
and these ancient uh structures in

905
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,820
England

906
00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:38,640
so and since Pine Bush was a UFO hot

907
00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:39,660
spot

908
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:43,500
I thought that maybe that crater that I

909
00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:46,140
had mapped when I was mapping in 1992

910
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:48,420
and 93

911
00:42:54,589 --> 00:42:50,520
um could represent

912
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:54,599
the uh a duplicate Circle that like the

913
00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:57,420
ape Berry Circle uh in England

914
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:00,599
and I had measured it on Earth

915
00:43:05,329 --> 00:43:03,480
and the center of that crater was 41

916
00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:05,339
degrees 36 minutes

917
00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:09,000
I called Hoagland up and he said I asked

918
00:43:12,829 --> 00:43:10,500
him what is the center of the crater on

919
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:12,839
Mars and he said get he got me in

920
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,720
contact with his other geologist Jim

921
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,200
merjavik and uh Jim said well the center

922
00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:21,359
of the crater and Mars is at 41 degrees

923
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,240
36 minutes

924
00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:25,800
wait a minute hmm

925
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:29,099
saying latitude that's more than

926
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,240
coincidence

927
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:31,920
so I said well maybe there's something

928
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:34,859
else in the valley I need to look for

929
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,119
something else

930
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:37,920
so I

931
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:40,440
uh knew that the next thing that was

932
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:43,920
important was the tholas on Mars and the

933
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,700
in silvery Hill uh in England so I

934
00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:50,400
tracked out in the direction roughly the

935
00:43:53,630 --> 00:43:52,680
same direction from the crater that I

936
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:53,640
had mapped

937
00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:57,599
and where my ruler came to an end on the

938
00:44:00,589 --> 00:43:58,380
map

939
00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:00,599
there was the Solas

940
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,819
right underneath the Stuart air for

941
00:44:08,329 --> 00:44:04,560
arming Air Force Base

942
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:08,339
the whole damn thoughts including the uh

943
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:10,920
the the satellite Mound off to the side

944
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,040
the tholas on Mars has a satellite Mound

945
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:16,800
off to the side and they were virtually

946
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:20,940
a Dead Ringer a perfect copy on Earth

947
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,740
but there were to this one-to-one scale

948
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,960
not a 14 to one scale yeah that's my

949
00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:27,780
question okay so the scales were not

950
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:29,940
different we're talking about a

951
00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:34,260
one-to-one layover yes really yeah which

952
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,900
was shocking and then I said well you

953
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:37,800
know

954
00:44:41,870 --> 00:44:39,900
I need something more than this this is

955
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,880
this people are just not going to want

956
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:43,200
to believe this

957
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:46,440
so I determined the distance of the face

958
00:44:53,870 --> 00:44:48,780
from the tholas and the crater on Mars

959
00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:53,880
you know roughly and I got my rulers on

960
00:44:58,370 --> 00:44:56,460
my topographic maps and where they came

961
00:45:00,109 --> 00:44:58,380
to an end I looked down and I couldn't

962
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,119
believe my eyes

963
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:01,920
there was a face

964
00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:04,079
carved out of the Rock right there near

965
00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:05,940
Goshen New York

966
00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:08,700
but it was a mirror image of the face on

967
00:45:12,109 --> 00:45:10,740
Mars you could see all the features on

968
00:45:16,609 --> 00:45:12,119
it

969
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:16,619
um the forehead the nose Ridge the eye

970
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:20,520
the eye sockets the mouth the chin it

971
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:21,900
was all there

972
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:24,900
uh what was the ratio there in relation

973
00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:27,300
to tholas very close to one to one

974
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:33,109
um well okay okay what are we suggesting

975
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:34,920
here and we're going to continue but

976
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:39,240
what do we actually suggesting now okay

977
00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:42,300
I had to go and find the biggest one

978
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,280
the biggest feature in the sodium

979
00:45:50,809 --> 00:45:47,280
complex which is that DNM pyramid

980
00:45:52,730 --> 00:45:50,819
which is Rises at least 800 to perhaps

981
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,740
as much as a thousand it may have

982
00:45:56,990 --> 00:45:54,480
originally been a thousand feet tall but

983
00:45:59,930 --> 00:45:57,000
but it's collapsed to a slight a

984
00:46:01,970 --> 00:45:59,940
significant degree on Mars because it is

985
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:01,980
the base is what two three square miles

986
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:04,740
three point uh two uh square miles right

987
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:08,339
3.2 square miles uh it's ginormous okay

988
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:11,579
it's the biggest pyramid in the solar

989
00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:13,380
system are you gonna tell me next that

990
00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:15,780
you found a pyramid in New York I found

991
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:18,119
the base of it okay okay okay okay okay

992
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:21,180
okay this is this is getting good

993
00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:25,260
um where was that and was this also now

994
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,240
a one-to-one ratio

995
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:30,720
yes and what is fascinating about this

996
00:46:36,349 --> 00:46:33,839
uh is the base is

997
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:36,359
um right next to a town now there are a

998
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:38,280
lot of coincidences going on here and

999
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:41,520
you'll find out as I uh reveal this

1000
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:43,140
story further

1001
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,020
right neck to the south of the where

1002
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:48,960
this feature may have existed

1003
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:51,720
is a town called Warwick

1004
00:46:58,849 --> 00:46:54,839
and what is Mars

1005
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,430
so what is Warwick doing and here's that

1006
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:03,540
something else that's really weird the

1007
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:06,900
tholas underneath Stuart Air Force Base

1008
00:47:13,309 --> 00:47:10,380
has a little town next to it called

1009
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:13,319
Little Britain

1010
00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:15,420
and the thoris and the averagebury

1011
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:16,980
circle in England

1012
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:20,480
you're in Britain

1013
00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:23,880
keep going I'm looking at Warwick right

1014
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,460
now okay let me see what's going on here

1015
00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:28,800
okay so there's Warwick

1016
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:32,700
um and Stewart Air Force Base is

1017
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:36,480
is where you know what near Newburgh go

1018
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:39,300
look for Newberg okay I'll I'll find it

1019
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:43,520
uh yeah oh I got it okay so

1020
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:47,099
uh who

1021
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:48,540
I gotta look at the clock here we're

1022
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:49,980
going to take a break in nine minutes

1023
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,480
who was here first are we martians or

1024
00:47:59,630 --> 00:47:56,579
are martians Earthlings

1025
00:48:01,250 --> 00:47:59,640
you have raised and most and asked the

1026
00:48:04,010 --> 00:48:01,260
most important question because that is

1027
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:04,020
going going through my mind is that are

1028
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:06,540
they our ancestors or are they our

1029
00:48:11,770 --> 00:48:09,720
creators what do you think

1030
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:11,780
they could be both

1031
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:16,520
okay let's get some dating you suggested

1032
00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:21,839
that we're looking at uh 150

1033
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,619
000 120 120 000 years now here's the

1034
00:48:30,109 --> 00:48:27,420
interesting part about this the last

1035
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:30,119
interglacial right and the ice course

1036
00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:33,060
showed that in the center of that uh

1037
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:35,700
interglacial there was a 3 000 year

1038
00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:37,140
period

1039
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:39,780
when the global temperatures on Earth

1040
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:42,119
Rose three to five degrees centigrated

1041
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:43,740
higher than today

1042
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:47,280
three to five degrees Centigrade higher

1043
00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:48,660
than today

1044
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,040
wait a minute

1045
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:52,079
isn't that what we're going into right

1046
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,040
now

1047
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:55,680
we're in the middle of our interglacial

1048
00:48:59,050 --> 00:48:57,540
Holocene interglacial

1049
00:49:01,790 --> 00:48:59,060
and during the

1050
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,800
sagamonian interglacial there was this

1051
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:03,119
hot period

1052
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,400
the Earth really heated up

1053
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:07,920
I've always wondered well is that was

1054
00:49:12,589 --> 00:49:09,900
that caused by an intelligent

1055
00:49:14,809 --> 00:49:12,599
civilization

1056
00:49:16,490 --> 00:49:14,819
did they have go through what we're

1057
00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:16,500
going through right now

1058
00:49:20,569 --> 00:49:19,020
well we have to look at it a few

1059
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:20,579
different ways don't we I mean there's

1060
00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,640
ways to answer the question but

1061
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:25,980
um first off uh the changes that we were

1062
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,040
going through today is because of uh the

1063
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:30,960
industrial period uh that we're going

1064
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,300
through now did we cause this

1065
00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:35,280
um is there something else of the

1066
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,040
expansion of life and biology on the

1067
00:49:45,250 --> 00:49:40,800
planet that is causing it or

1068
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:45,260
um is it just solar is it just Celestial

1069
00:49:50,990 --> 00:49:47,700
and the Earth has gone through stuff

1070
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,000
like this before so could it be that or

1071
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,520
were there ancient civilizations here

1072
00:49:58,550 --> 00:49:55,920
before that went through the same

1073
00:49:59,870 --> 00:49:58,560
changes that we're going through now

1074
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,880
um we have to look I think that

1075
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:01,440
everything should be on the table Bruce

1076
00:50:05,470 --> 00:50:02,940
I don't think we have anything

1077
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:05,480
conclusive thank you yes I totally agree

1078
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,940
this is up in the air in fact I would I

1079
00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:10,800
mean I talked about the cause of the

1080
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:12,780
earth stopping its rotation on its

1081
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:16,200
orbital axis when the Earth's orbit is

1082
00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:18,900
allowed with the sun's ecliptic or

1083
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:22,920
accretion desk and uh that also could

1084
00:50:27,170 --> 00:50:26,040
account for Earth being pulled closer to

1085
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,180
the Sun

1086
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:30,000
and thus the Earth heating up so this

1087
00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:32,460
could be a natural cycle but it could

1088
00:50:36,890 --> 00:50:34,859
also have been caused because it lasted

1089
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:36,900
three thousand years they they were able

1090
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:39,599
to extract that data from the ice course

1091
00:50:44,569 --> 00:50:42,420
which is an amazing accomplishment

1092
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,579
and um it's also an amazing

1093
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:47,280
accomplishment that cores drilled in the

1094
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:50,940
uh Ronnie uh ice shelf in in Antarctica

1095
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:54,000
pulled up well-preserved plants tropical

1096
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,800
plants from the bottom and uh the ground

1097
00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:01,200
penetrating radar across large expanses

1098
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,480
of Antarctica show that they're it's on

1099
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:05,760
the ice is underlained by v-shaped

1100
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:09,300
valleys those are not glacial valleys

1101
00:51:16,609 --> 00:51:13,980
those are tropical river valleys so the

1102
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:16,619
idea that uh Earth froze up on both

1103
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:18,900
hemispheres both poles at the same time

1104
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,079
is incorrect and to explain how you

1105
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:24,000
could get the northern ice cap growing

1106
00:51:28,609 --> 00:51:25,140
so big

1107
00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:28,619
and the South uh and tropical climate to

1108
00:51:33,770 --> 00:51:31,559
exist in the at the South Pole you have

1109
00:51:36,370 --> 00:51:33,780
to orient the Earth in a different way

1110
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:36,380
than it's orienting now

1111
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:44,750
well hapgood wanted to say that it moved

1112
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:48,420
yeah that's 17 degrees yes and um I

1113
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:51,180
don't think so because uh as a geologist

1114
00:51:56,750 --> 00:51:53,940
I realized that if the crust decoupled

1115
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,760
and started moving uh that much 17

1116
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:58,559
degrees is an enormous amount of

1117
00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,940
movement okay

1118
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:01,619
the um

1119
00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:03,720
Richter Scale earthquakes would have

1120
00:52:09,710 --> 00:52:07,859
been over 12 for Endless for years

1121
00:52:11,809 --> 00:52:09,720
everything on the surface of the Earth

1122
00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:11,819
would have been just totally pulverized

1123
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,700
and and brought down no ancient

1124
00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:17,520
monuments temples civilizations would

1125
00:52:21,770 --> 00:52:19,859
have been any trace of it left if the

1126
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,780
Earth had moved that that way

1127
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,280
so

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00:52:27,849 --> 00:52:25,440
okay

1129
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:27,859
is it possible

1130
00:52:35,049 --> 00:52:31,859
that Antarctica could have been

1131
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:38,809
was there a civilization ancient uh

1132
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:42,240
living in Antarctica back then and will

1133
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:44,579
we find evidence of that I think so

1134
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,160
because if it had a tropical climate

1135
00:52:52,930 --> 00:52:49,200
right I mean

1136
00:53:00,770 --> 00:52:55,809
the yeah

1137
00:53:03,290 --> 00:53:00,780
so if we go and look at some of the

1138
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:03,300
ancient maps that are redrawn and

1139
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,640
redrawn and redrawn and handed down over

1140
00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:08,400
the years there is evidence I don't

1141
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:11,460
think it's totally conclusive but it

1142
00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:14,880
appears to my eyeballs that the

1143
00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:17,640
coastline of Antarctica that is there is

1144
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:19,980
land and not ice the way it's

1145
00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:23,040
represented today and the only reason

1146
00:53:30,049 --> 00:53:25,980
you would know that is if you saw

1147
00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:30,059
Antarctica when it was topical right

1148
00:53:35,390 --> 00:53:32,760
what it was trying right well Hancock

1149
00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:35,400
and silver Fingerprints of the Gods goes

1150
00:53:38,089 --> 00:53:36,599
through the different maps and puts them

1151
00:53:41,089 --> 00:53:38,099
in order

1152
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:41,099
um and shows that there's a sequence

1153
00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:43,800
showing that uh there was no ice on

1154
00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:46,380
Antarctica and then it iced up around uh

1155
00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:48,660
in the center and then it iced up on the

1156
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:50,520
shelves in the shorelines

1157
00:53:56,329 --> 00:53:53,700
uh he presented evidence for that

1158
00:53:57,950 --> 00:53:56,339
happening in Fingerprints of the Gods I

1159
00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:57,960
think he's right

1160
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,420
I I think it's much older than that

1161
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,599
though um I like the way he lays it out

1162
00:54:09,290 --> 00:54:06,000
um but I think it's much much older than

1163
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:09,300
what uh Graham uh is presenting to us

1164
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:11,640
look he can't he can't go to the

1165
00:54:14,829 --> 00:54:13,500
extremes he's already upsetting enough

1166
00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:14,839
people right

1167
00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:18,180
you know and and I I can appreciate that

1168
00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:20,099
but

1169
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:21,780
um I think I think it's much much much

1170
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,640
much much older uh than than what Graham

1171
00:54:31,609 --> 00:54:28,559
um has laid out you can't base it on the

1172
00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:31,619
Perry race map uh well well it depends

1173
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:35,480
on when when this uh the ice

1174
00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:38,520
formed on Antarctica when that's

1175
00:54:42,829 --> 00:54:39,960
basically what you're saying did it form

1176
00:54:44,329 --> 00:54:42,839
uh at the beginning of the of the last

1177
00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:44,339
ice age or in the middle of the last

1178
00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:46,020
side Chase or at the end of the last

1179
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:48,780
side stage and if I can bring in uh Mark

1180
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:51,540
carlotto who put out a book before

1181
00:54:58,490 --> 00:54:55,440
Atlantis it's a good book yes he talks

1182
00:55:01,790 --> 00:54:58,500
about you know orientation of the

1183
00:55:05,150 --> 00:55:01,800
different uh ancient sites uh and picks

1184
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:05,160
different locations for the Magnetic

1185
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:08,880
North Pole and he shows that there were

1186
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,160
civilizations going all the way back to

1187
00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:13,440
the middle of the last ice age although

1188
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,020
he doesn't recognize the the

1189
00:55:20,809 --> 00:55:18,720
um the beginning of the last ice age as

1190
00:55:23,809 --> 00:55:20,819
being part of it and I'm whereas I do

1191
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,819
recognize that it began a hundred and

1192
00:55:28,849 --> 00:55:25,920
eighteen thousand years ago he thinks it

1193
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,859
began nice last night's about 50 000

1194
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,140
years ago and then no the the evidence

1195
00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:33,359
in the course is that it goes back at

1196
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,819
least a hundred and ten thousand years

1197
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:37,920
do you think that uh you know we've got

1198
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,500
so many research stations uh down

1199
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,200
different countries in Antarctica doing

1200
00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:46,079
a lot of core samples and and things

1201
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:48,300
they're obviously interested do you

1202
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:50,280
think that they know do you think that

1203
00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:51,839
they know that there was somebody living

1204
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,839
there a long time ago and it and and if

1205
00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,079
they do why aren't they sharing it

1206
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:00,540
uh doesn't fit the narrative

1207
00:56:08,410 --> 00:56:04,680
I mean before that why because look at

1208
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:08,420
the uh egyptologists who still cannot

1209
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:12,660
recognize circular saw blades in huge

1210
00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:15,240
blocks of granite at the base of the

1211
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:18,660
Great Pyramid and drill holes uh

1212
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:21,240
perfectly round drill holes in many of

1213
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:22,440
those rocks

1214
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,079
they just can't recognize a high

1215
00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:27,599
technology tools why

1216
00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:29,700
they all are talking about you know

1217
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:32,460
copper chisels and and Hammers and stuff

1218
00:56:37,790 --> 00:56:34,380
like that to be able to make all of that

1219
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:37,800
stuff and it's um I don't think so

1220
00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:40,440
there's something else going on here

1221
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,359
yeah you're you're right

1222
00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:45,359
um I just got back from Egypt and I'm

1223
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:47,640
not gonna you know take up time on this

1224
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:50,400
show about that but but I say it over

1225
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,480
and over again when you uh are asking

1226
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,640
questions and you have an open mind and

1227
00:57:01,010 --> 00:56:58,319
your eyeballs are open and you're

1228
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:01,020
observing you you just take a look

1229
00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:03,900
around at any sites you know any of the

1230
00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:07,500
sites in Egypt and and know that they

1231
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:09,660
had it figured out you know this you can

1232
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:13,740
feel it now uh the egyptologists are in

1233
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:16,559
denial I get that but they didn't want

1234
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:19,380
to even admit that go back Lee Tepe uh

1235
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:22,740
was real because that that upsets what

1236
00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:25,260
they've been telling the world for quite

1237
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,500
a long time that uh the the Cradle of

1238
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,480
everything started uh on the Giza

1239
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:32,880
Plateau well basically now that that is

1240
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:34,020
not the case

1241
00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:35,280
exactly

1242
00:57:39,049 --> 00:57:36,839
let's take our break right here Bruce

1243
00:57:41,329 --> 00:57:39,059
you stay right there this is Fade to

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00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,180
ice ages in ancient pyramids we've got a

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lot more to cover Dr Bruce Cornett is

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our guest stay right there

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1372
01:03:02,630 --> 01:02:59,880
let's do a little bit of a reset

1373
01:03:06,829 --> 01:03:02,640
um who came first was it was it us or

1374
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:06,839
them and obviously there is a connection

1375
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:09,119
to what is happening right now with ET

1376
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,480
and UFOs and this planet but but Bruce

1377
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,640
who came first

1378
01:03:20,089 --> 01:03:16,559
I can give you some information that's

1379
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:20,099
going to be like a um

1380
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,280
a pebble in the pond okay

1381
01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:25,680
it's going to create ripples let's go

1382
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:28,260
let's go I'm ready let's Ripple let's

1383
01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:31,440
come let's go I told you when I started

1384
01:03:36,170 --> 01:03:33,780
out that I was witnessing and

1385
01:03:39,530 --> 01:03:36,180
photographing spent 11 years in the

1386
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:39,540
field documenting hundreds of close

1387
01:03:44,270 --> 01:03:42,420
encounters with unconventional craft I

1388
01:03:48,049 --> 01:03:44,280
mean any gravity craft

1389
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:48,059
and witnessing them uh coming to us

1390
01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:50,160
finding us wherever we were in the

1391
01:03:57,010 --> 01:03:53,099
valley and putting on Sky glyphs in the

1392
01:04:01,250 --> 01:03:57,020
night sky uh incredible uh Sky glyphs

1393
01:04:02,890 --> 01:04:01,260
one was in the shape of the Superman s

1394
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:02,900
for example

1395
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:07,680
and others were just outrageous there no

1396
01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:09,359
way could a conventional aircraft

1397
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:13,020
perform these things these crafts could

1398
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:16,559
stop and and take off like a bat out of

1399
01:04:21,289 --> 01:04:19,980
hell I saw I saw I was with a couple of

1400
01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:21,299
hundred people

1401
01:04:31,069 --> 01:04:25,260
and I saw a green one cross this guy

1402
01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:31,079
huge do a backwards Zorro Z wow okay

1403
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,480
lasted about a second

1404
01:04:37,549 --> 01:04:36,000
yeah but I took time exposures and

1405
01:04:39,289 --> 01:04:37,559
that's how I captured them and I would

1406
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:39,299
splice all the pictures together and I

1407
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,520
have hundreds of web pages on all of

1408
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:44,160
these things that we discovered right

1409
01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:47,760
but in my process of doing that I

1410
01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:49,500
discovered that in the southern part of

1411
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:50,940
the valley

1412
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:53,400
there are two large Hills or small

1413
01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:54,900
mountains

1414
01:05:01,549 --> 01:04:58,200
in the shape of pyramids

1415
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:01,559
one is called Mount Adam it's a stepped

1416
01:05:08,030 --> 01:05:04,680
four-sided stepped pyramid

1417
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,040
still it survived the last ice age

1418
01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:10,319
and I've climbed to the top of that it's

1419
01:05:17,150 --> 01:05:13,319
quite a magnificent structure and then

1420
01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:17,160
off to the side is a low low Mound with

1421
01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:18,900
in the shape of a key

1422
01:05:22,609 --> 01:05:20,760
with with uh

1423
01:05:26,210 --> 01:05:22,619
um

1424
01:05:29,089 --> 01:05:26,220
as with a key it had three prongs on the

1425
01:05:32,210 --> 01:05:29,099
end of it and at that same time that I

1426
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:32,220
discovered that crop circles appeared in

1427
01:05:37,010 --> 01:05:33,540
in England

1428
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:37,020
of the key look exactly like the one

1429
01:05:41,630 --> 01:05:38,880
that I found in in the form of the

1430
01:05:44,329 --> 01:05:41,640
mountain now that one is named by the

1431
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:44,339
early settlers Mount Eve

1432
01:05:49,069 --> 01:05:47,220
and the tall one of the step pyramid is

1433
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:49,079
named Mount Adam

1434
01:05:57,049 --> 01:05:53,599
why would they name yeah

1435
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,059
is this was this subliminal information

1436
01:06:03,230 --> 01:05:59,359
given to the early settlers of that area

1437
01:06:05,569 --> 01:06:03,240
now what is a fascinating Hoagland uh

1438
01:06:08,809 --> 01:06:05,579
said that the Sidonia complex in Mars

1439
01:06:11,569 --> 01:06:08,819
was built on the edge of a

1440
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:11,579
of a shallow sea and they could even

1441
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:14,280
find the shoreline of that ocean before

1442
01:06:18,890 --> 01:06:15,900
it disappeared

1443
01:06:22,250 --> 01:06:18,900
and that he shows a picture in one of

1444
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:22,260
his web pages and of of the face viewed

1445
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:24,240
from the

1446
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:26,160
um

1447
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:29,099
the city of pyramids where you could see

1448
01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:34,140
the face uh profile coming out of water

1449
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:37,319
well in the Waco River Valley

1450
01:06:44,329 --> 01:06:40,079
everything behind or south of the face

1451
01:06:47,569 --> 01:06:44,339
near Goshen was a Shallow Lake

1452
01:06:50,329 --> 01:06:47,579
at one time in the end of the they had

1453
01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:50,339
the early settlers there in the 1800s

1454
01:06:56,569 --> 01:06:53,940
they had to build a canal through the

1455
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:56,579
mouth of the face in order to drain that

1456
01:07:02,870 --> 01:06:59,280
lake so that they could claim the lake

1457
01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:02,880
Bud um bottom mutts and use it for

1458
01:07:08,589 --> 01:07:05,220
growing onions it's one of the best

1459
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:08,599
onion growing areas in the country

1460
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:11,940
but that it was originally a lake and

1461
01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:13,740
looked a lot like the picture of the

1462
01:07:20,089 --> 01:07:17,099
face on Mars when the ocean was there

1463
01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:20,099
so the question is

1464
01:07:25,609 --> 01:07:23,460
how much similarity is there between

1465
01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:25,619
what's on Mars and what's here in New

1466
01:07:29,210 --> 01:07:26,819
York state

1467
01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:29,220
and what is Mount Adam and mount Eve

1468
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,799
have to do with all of this this is

1469
01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:34,559
really strange you ask the question

1470
01:07:39,230 --> 01:07:38,099
um did they are they us or did they

1471
01:07:40,609 --> 01:07:39,240
create us

1472
01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:40,619
and

1473
01:07:48,109 --> 01:07:45,720
gives some indication that they may have

1474
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,119
been responsible for genetically

1475
01:07:52,430 --> 01:07:49,920
engineering us

1476
01:07:56,569 --> 01:07:52,440
and the old stories from uh gilgamation

1477
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:56,579
from Samaria about uh the

1478
01:08:04,069 --> 01:07:59,359
Anunnaki coming to Earth and

1479
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,079
creating us for as slaves for them

1480
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,559
it might be true

1481
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:08,880
how do you

1482
01:08:14,930 --> 01:08:11,940
um we're gonna come back right to where

1483
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:14,940
we are right now but just like Graham

1484
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:17,819
Hancock is is constantly rolling that

1485
01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:20,000
rock uphill right yes

1486
01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:23,460
it is constantly and others he's not the

1487
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,060
only one right uh uh but right now he's

1488
01:08:34,010 --> 01:08:29,279
he's in his moment

1489
01:08:35,689 --> 01:08:34,020
um but uh so many are rolling that rock

1490
01:08:40,130 --> 01:08:35,699
uphill you're facing those same

1491
01:08:43,930 --> 01:08:40,140
challenges uh for you to present uh

1492
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:43,940
another uh complex that replicates

1493
01:08:52,729 --> 01:08:48,900
one-to-one Sedona Sedonia on Mars uh in

1494
01:08:56,410 --> 01:08:52,739
New York that was leveled uh uh by

1495
01:09:00,110 --> 01:08:56,420
glaciers in uh during the last ice age

1496
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,120
that that's an enormous Rock uh for

1497
01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:02,640
somebody like you to be rolling uphill

1498
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:04,980
how do you how do you publish this and

1499
01:09:11,329 --> 01:09:07,440
how do you get people to accept it I put

1500
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:11,339
it out there on um the uh on on web

1501
01:09:15,169 --> 01:09:13,319
pages I have a lot of web pages out

1502
01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:15,179
there that you can just do Sedonia 2

1503
01:09:21,950 --> 01:09:18,420
report and you'll get all of mine uh

1504
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:21,960
information laid out for those who want

1505
01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:25,560
to read it but also I created a

1506
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,219
a YouTube video on this in addition

1507
01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:32,400
and then you have Bill Burns

1508
01:09:39,289 --> 01:09:36,299
who was the editor of UFO magazine back

1509
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:39,299
when I met him and he wanted to do a

1510
01:09:46,249 --> 01:09:42,719
story on on my work in the Walker River

1511
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:46,259
Valley and the name of this uh History

1512
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,620
Channel presentation is called UFO

1513
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:51,199
vortexes

1514
01:09:57,890 --> 01:09:54,600
now what is important about that

1515
01:10:00,410 --> 01:09:57,900
is that he was out there with me we were

1516
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:00,420
going around showing all of this stuff

1517
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:03,660
uh and he and he presents a lot of it on

1518
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:06,000
this uh show

1519
01:10:10,430 --> 01:10:07,440
and

1520
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:10,440
he also presents this hologram that I

1521
01:10:16,750 --> 01:10:14,100
took a picture of uh back on the 28th of

1522
01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:16,760
April 1993.

1523
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:20,760
and I was with Ellen Crystal and I saw

1524
01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:23,880
this craft rising up from a nearby farm

1525
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:24,900
field

1526
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,320
and it was traveling south and as it

1527
01:10:32,689 --> 01:10:30,719
Rose it did something strange I didn't

1528
01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:32,699
know what it did until I got the picture

1529
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:34,020
developed

1530
01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:37,440
and there was a strange formation of

1531
01:10:44,510 --> 01:10:40,380
lights that it created and of course

1532
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,520
those at UFO owners and Bill Burns

1533
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:46,560
thought it was a UFO Vortex that's why

1534
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:51,840
they called the show uh UFO vertices and

1535
01:10:56,930 --> 01:10:54,719
um but it's it's not a vortex

1536
01:11:00,290 --> 01:10:56,940
if you look at it closely

1537
01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:00,300
it was a hologram that was generated of

1538
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:02,760
our binary solar system

1539
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:07,440
and it has a sun our sun with rings

1540
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:10,679
around it and inside those concentric

1541
01:11:16,970 --> 01:11:13,620
Rings it has planets of different size

1542
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:16,980
and different color actually color coded

1543
01:11:22,610 --> 01:11:19,679
and then off to the right there is

1544
01:11:27,890 --> 01:11:22,620
another Sun a blue Sun

1545
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:27,900
with a energy coming being drawn from

1546
01:11:32,510 --> 01:11:30,480
our sun to it

1547
01:11:37,070 --> 01:11:32,520
and all of the

1548
01:11:40,570 --> 01:11:37,080
uh the orbits of the planets

1549
01:11:42,850 --> 01:11:40,580
around our sun are are disc shaped

1550
01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:42,860
concave

1551
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:46,739
towards the blue Sun indicating that it

1552
01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:50,159
is revolving around the blue Sun and

1553
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:54,000
Walter croutendon has in early 2000s did

1554
01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:56,820
a lot of papers and in interviews about

1555
01:12:02,570 --> 01:11:59,699
uh the binary in fact this organization

1556
01:12:06,110 --> 01:12:02,580
is called you know the binary astrology

1557
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,120
and uh he believes that we do have a

1558
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:08,400
companion son then mythology it's talked

1559
01:12:13,310 --> 01:12:10,020
about and

1560
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,320
they seem to have given us that

1561
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:15,360
information in the form of a hologram a

1562
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,239
spectacular uh piece of technology that

1563
01:12:22,669 --> 01:12:20,159
we can't duplicate

1564
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:22,679
well what when Walter started to publish

1565
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:27,480
this he was the uh one of the only

1566
01:12:34,010 --> 01:12:29,460
voices uh that we're talking about

1567
01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:34,020
binary systems uh today I think it's

1568
01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:37,620
generally accepted that binary star

1569
01:12:43,370 --> 01:12:40,860
systems are the most common versions of

1570
01:12:46,370 --> 01:12:43,380
star systems uh throughout the Universe

1571
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,380
yes and and that's where we are today

1572
01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:49,199
Walter talk about the you know the

1573
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:51,420
pebble right in the pond and causing

1574
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,659
those ripples well as it turns out uh

1575
01:13:01,070 --> 01:12:56,159
Walter was on the right side of History

1576
01:13:03,709 --> 01:13:01,080
wasn't he yes yes in fact he said that

1577
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,719
um the the procession of the Equinox is

1578
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:05,040
actually

1579
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:07,320
um he said because the proceeds a

1580
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:11,100
process as well as the uh zodiac from

1581
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:12,840
the earth standpoint

1582
01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:15,600
that it represents

1583
01:13:20,350 --> 01:13:17,940
the rotation of this whole solar system

1584
01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:20,360
not something that's

1585
01:13:26,030 --> 01:13:22,580
centered about Earth

1586
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,040
and um that's why what we're seeing now

1587
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,080
with the Earth not rotating on its

1588
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:30,239
orbital axis we're seeing the background

1589
01:13:34,189 --> 01:13:31,679
procession

1590
01:13:36,050 --> 01:13:34,199
uh of the uh

1591
01:13:39,790 --> 01:13:36,060
the position of the zodiacs

1592
01:13:42,410 --> 01:13:39,800
constellations changing 50 angst uh what

1593
01:13:47,390 --> 01:13:42,420
astronomical units every year

1594
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:47,400
as we process through 360 degrees of the

1595
01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:51,480
zodiac over 25 770 years

1596
01:13:57,950 --> 01:13:56,100
this is is the background because the

1597
01:14:00,490 --> 01:13:57,960
Earth is not rotating on its orbital

1598
01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:00,500
axis but during the Ice Age when it did

1599
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,960
that imp that that cycle just over

1600
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:05,760
printed everything else you couldn't

1601
01:14:12,110 --> 01:14:08,580
have the procession was still there

1602
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:12,120
but it wasn't uh is visible as it is

1603
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:16,080
today well and and uh Mike Brown who's

1604
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:19,020
an astrophysicist uh at Caltech about

1605
01:14:24,530 --> 01:14:22,080
five years ago uh well he he published

1606
01:14:25,970 --> 01:14:24,540
two papers on this but about five years

1607
01:14:27,649 --> 01:14:25,980
ago he said

1608
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:27,659
there's another planet out there

1609
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:31,679
something is causing uh the strange

1610
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,980
movements of Neptune and and Saturn that

1611
01:14:39,709 --> 01:14:36,960
we can't explain and the only thing that

1612
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:39,719
would do that in the math support is

1613
01:14:45,950 --> 01:14:41,280
that there is another planet that we

1614
01:14:50,030 --> 01:14:45,960
can't see uh that is beyond uh Neptune

1615
01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:50,040
and and he says

1616
01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:53,340
it's the math right and the the math

1617
01:14:58,910 --> 01:14:56,760
says that this body is out there it's

1618
01:15:01,490 --> 01:14:58,920
too far out to reflect sunlight

1619
01:15:04,729 --> 01:15:01,500
therefore we can't see it but it is

1620
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,739
affecting us but isn't this exactly what

1621
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:06,480
the Sumerian texts were talking about

1622
01:15:11,630 --> 01:15:10,080
yes yes also I got a picture a

1623
01:15:14,209 --> 01:15:11,640
photograph of it

1624
01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:14,219
they gave me a an image of where it was

1625
01:15:20,209 --> 01:15:17,699
in the night sky uh my wife and I were

1626
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:20,219
out on West Harrisville Road waiting for

1627
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:21,600
something to happen all of a sudden a

1628
01:15:25,250 --> 01:15:22,920
light turns on

1629
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,260
behind the trees across the farm field

1630
01:15:30,169 --> 01:15:28,320
right and Rises up and as it rises up it

1631
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,179
does an S shape

1632
01:15:34,970 --> 01:15:32,400
then it gets above the trees and it

1633
01:15:37,790 --> 01:15:34,980
starts traveling south and as it travels

1634
01:15:41,330 --> 01:15:37,800
South it rises in altitude

1635
01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:41,340
and and goes to a specific point in the

1636
01:15:47,090 --> 01:15:44,760
night sky where there was a star all

1637
01:15:49,790 --> 01:15:47,100
right and tags that star

1638
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:49,800
well that star doesn't exist on any Star

1639
01:15:54,890 --> 01:15:50,880
Charts

1640
01:15:55,689 --> 01:15:54,900
hmm and it went out after it it tagged

1641
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:55,699
it

1642
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:59,280
so were they trying to point out the

1643
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:02,400
position of that other body in our solar

1644
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:03,920
system

1645
01:16:09,050 --> 01:16:06,719
do you think that's Nibiru and do you

1646
01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:09,060
think that what Mike Brown is talking

1647
01:16:15,649 --> 01:16:13,260
about is possibly Nibiru could be

1648
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:15,659
it could be could very well be

1649
01:16:22,430 --> 01:16:18,900
I don't know yeah yeah wow I mean just

1650
01:16:25,250 --> 01:16:22,440
wouldn't see the thing is you know they

1651
01:16:29,090 --> 01:16:25,260
just don't want us to know but at some

1652
01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:29,100
point uh we are going to find out these

1653
01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:30,140
things

1654
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:34,020
and are have we been lied to right

1655
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:37,020
throughout history and why uh why is

1656
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:39,120
that the case or

1657
01:16:44,570 --> 01:16:41,340
um are we about to to have a really big

1658
01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:44,580
surprise and I feel like something is

1659
01:16:49,250 --> 01:16:46,620
right here on the horizon uh what do you

1660
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,260
think yes I think we're very close I

1661
01:16:54,169 --> 01:16:51,120
mean we're seeing increased numbers of

1662
01:16:56,209 --> 01:16:54,179
sightings all across the world and

1663
01:16:59,810 --> 01:16:56,219
especially in the United States

1664
01:17:03,410 --> 01:16:59,820
and keep in mind that during the 1990s

1665
01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:03,420
until 2003 I was 11 years going into the

1666
01:17:08,090 --> 01:17:04,260
field

1667
01:17:10,490 --> 01:17:08,100
I was supported by my uh wife at the

1668
01:17:12,410 --> 01:17:10,500
time and she she was a workaholic and

1669
01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:12,420
all she wanted me to do is raise her

1670
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:15,000
kids which I did and

1671
01:17:20,689 --> 01:17:15,840
um

1672
01:17:25,790 --> 01:17:20,699
I would take trips up to Pine Bush and

1673
01:17:27,709 --> 01:17:25,800
go in the field and I documented 140

1674
01:17:29,390 --> 01:17:27,719
Close Encounters they're all on my web

1675
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:29,400
pages

1676
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:33,679
and um I've been you know uh

1677
01:17:37,790 --> 01:17:36,480
been written about in books called

1678
01:17:39,770 --> 01:17:37,800
repeaters

1679
01:17:43,729 --> 01:17:39,780
because I'm one of the very few who has

1680
01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:43,739
had so many repeating encounters but

1681
01:17:49,010 --> 01:17:46,020
this I was right in the middle of their

1682
01:17:51,169 --> 01:17:49,020
their location now keep in mind that

1683
01:17:52,610 --> 01:17:51,179
this is the valley where these monuments

1684
01:17:55,010 --> 01:17:52,620
I found right

1685
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:55,020
if this was a civilization that lived

1686
01:18:00,430 --> 01:17:55,980
there

1687
01:18:02,810 --> 01:18:00,440
they're just Underground

1688
01:18:03,709 --> 01:18:02,820
do you think that

1689
01:18:06,649 --> 01:18:03,719
um

1690
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:06,659
do you think that they're coming to you

1691
01:18:11,390 --> 01:18:09,300
or again it's kind of like the same

1692
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:11,400
question I asked you before are you are

1693
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,440
you pulling them in or do they know that

1694
01:18:18,649 --> 01:18:16,080
you're there and they're winking at you

1695
01:18:21,229 --> 01:18:18,659
oh I

1696
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,239
I did something I agreed to do something

1697
01:18:25,970 --> 01:18:22,880
for them

1698
01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:25,980
that um was perhaps the most

1699
01:18:31,010 --> 01:18:29,460
extraordinary part of my life of and I I

1700
01:18:33,130 --> 01:18:31,020
don't know if we can get very far into

1701
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:33,140
this at this time but I wrote

1702
01:18:38,510 --> 01:18:36,960
a whole page a web page on it called The

1703
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:38,520
Passion of Bonnie

1704
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:42,239
and then I also gave a talk at the

1705
01:18:47,570 --> 01:18:46,320
Lachlan UFO Mega conference called

1706
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:47,580
um

1707
01:18:53,149 --> 01:18:51,360
anatomy of an ET spiritual deception of

1708
01:18:56,209 --> 01:18:53,159
biblical magnitude

1709
01:18:58,610 --> 01:18:56,219
and it goes in all of the details of

1710
01:19:00,830 --> 01:18:58,620
what I went through for seven years

1711
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:00,840
with this woman

1712
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,360
who when she died

1713
01:19:08,330 --> 01:19:06,000
my mother and I witnessed her spirit and

1714
01:19:11,810 --> 01:19:08,340
videotaped it over her grave

1715
01:19:14,450 --> 01:19:11,820
and then we saw a second son appear in

1716
01:19:15,470 --> 01:19:14,460
an overhead Cloud this is around 8 30 in

1717
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,480
the morning

1718
01:19:20,330 --> 01:19:18,000
and the actual Sun it was barely

1719
01:19:21,530 --> 01:19:20,340
breaking the tops of the trees to the

1720
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:21,540
east

1721
01:19:27,709 --> 01:19:24,600
and we saw a beam of golden light come

1722
01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:27,719
down from the Sun capture her spirit

1723
01:19:35,450 --> 01:19:31,800
it went up into that second sun the beam

1724
01:19:38,689 --> 01:19:35,460
of light retracted and it went out

1725
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,699
now this was in 1991 when she died in

1726
01:19:43,310 --> 01:19:41,520
January 12th it wasn't until a couple

1727
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,320
years later that the technology caught

1728
01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:45,600
up with everybody with their computers

1729
01:19:49,330 --> 01:19:46,380
etc

1730
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:49,340
and they had abilities

1731
01:19:55,010 --> 01:19:52,620
devices that could capture frames off of

1732
01:19:59,870 --> 01:19:55,020
a you know analog video

1733
01:20:01,910 --> 01:19:59,880
so I uh converted my video that I took

1734
01:20:04,610 --> 01:20:01,920
with the um

1735
01:20:06,890 --> 01:20:04,620
to digital and I went through the each

1736
01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:06,900
of the frames frame by frame and 30

1737
01:20:11,689 --> 01:20:09,780
frames per second and for about three or

1738
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:11,699
four frames

1739
01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:14,400
I had my camera on my shoulder as I was

1740
01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:16,440
driving into this Garden of Texas

1741
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:19,260
Liberty where she is buried

1742
01:20:24,830 --> 01:20:23,460
suddenly this huge Mothership sticking

1743
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:24,840
out of the cloud

1744
01:20:30,350 --> 01:20:28,080
I mean it's enormous it's white a

1745
01:20:33,290 --> 01:20:30,360
dome-shaped double brimmed and flat

1746
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:33,300
bottomed you can see it very clearly

1747
01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:36,719
and then the cloud quickly enveloped the

1748
01:20:41,090 --> 01:20:39,120
crap the mothership and it and it went

1749
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:41,100
back to being just the cloud

1750
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:44,100
so that told me and in addition to the

1751
01:20:48,770 --> 01:20:46,320
fact that my late wife continued to

1752
01:20:52,669 --> 01:20:48,780
communicate with me after she died

1753
01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:52,679
telepathically for at least six years

1754
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:54,840
and instructing me about what's going on

1755
01:21:02,390 --> 01:20:59,340
she's part of a the the very uh beings

1756
01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:02,400
that were part of that Civilization that

1757
01:21:09,290 --> 01:21:04,739
existed in the valley

1758
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:09,300
um and also were behind they she said

1759
01:21:16,729 --> 01:21:13,199
she claims behind uh ancient Egypt uh

1760
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:16,739
religion and Sumerian religion

1761
01:21:22,669 --> 01:21:20,159
so how do you uh Bruce here's the

1762
01:21:24,590 --> 01:21:22,679
serious question how do you as a you

1763
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:24,600
know scientist you've got you know a

1764
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:26,400
degree in biology you got a master's

1765
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:28,800
degree in paleobotany

1766
01:21:34,250 --> 01:21:31,199
uh you graduated from Penn State with a

1767
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:34,260
PhD in geology how do you as a

1768
01:21:41,090 --> 01:21:37,679
scientists start to resolve all of this

1769
01:21:43,070 --> 01:21:41,100
and and try to remain pragmatic or have

1770
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:43,080
you just let it all go and you're just

1771
01:21:49,610 --> 01:21:47,280
you're with me in woo-woo land I mean uh

1772
01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:49,620
well I'd like to well keep in mind that

1773
01:21:53,689 --> 01:21:50,580
one

1774
01:21:57,530 --> 01:21:53,699
I was uh this all started back on March

1775
01:22:00,830 --> 01:21:57,540
23rd 1981 we were drilling wells in the

1776
01:22:01,550 --> 01:22:00,840
Richmond Basin of Virginia and

1777
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:01,560
um

1778
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:03,840
the I

1779
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:05,880
was living in Houston Texas at the time

1780
01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:09,120
and I had gone to a Baptist retreat

1781
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:11,880
uh on the coastline and on the church

1782
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:14,280
bus headed back to Houston

1783
01:22:19,790 --> 01:22:17,520
hey Spirit talked to me and it said are

1784
01:22:22,010 --> 01:22:19,800
you ready to serve God and do whatever

1785
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:22,020
he asks you to do

1786
01:22:28,250 --> 01:22:26,159
and I said yes and then the voice said

1787
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,260
there is somebody who needs help if I

1788
01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:30,960
bring her to you will you help her I

1789
01:22:34,669 --> 01:22:33,420
thought for a moment I was single I said

1790
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,679
yes

1791
01:22:39,229 --> 01:22:36,719
when will I meet her the voice said

1792
01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:39,239
before the year is out I met around 15

1793
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:41,300
December 1983

1794
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:45,360
and on a very unusual circumstances

1795
01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:48,239
she was definitely in need of trouble I

1796
01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:50,820
had just purchased a brand new house I

1797
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,940
was living there you know alone and I

1798
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,679
told her I said why don't you cut you

1799
01:22:59,390 --> 01:22:57,360
and your son come and live with me if

1800
01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:59,400
you should because you know and we

1801
01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:01,380
stayed together for seven years until

1802
01:23:06,290 --> 01:23:02,940
she died

1803
01:23:08,030 --> 01:23:06,300
and then she can came back and but when

1804
01:23:09,890 --> 01:23:08,040
on that first weekend we were together

1805
01:23:13,010 --> 01:23:09,900
Jimmy

1806
01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:13,020
she just blew my mind completely you

1807
01:23:19,790 --> 01:23:16,920
know forget woo-woo I mean okay I mean

1808
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:19,800
she was she had been tested by the

1809
01:23:25,490 --> 01:23:22,800
Princeton University paranormal lab and

1810
01:23:27,649 --> 01:23:25,500
has scored virtually 100 percent

1811
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:27,659
she demonstrated everything she said she

1812
01:23:33,470 --> 01:23:30,800
was the telepathic precognitive

1813
01:23:35,209 --> 01:23:33,480
telekinetic and and

1814
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:35,219
um she could predict the future she knew

1815
01:23:37,370 --> 01:23:36,600
what was going to happen all of this

1816
01:23:41,870 --> 01:23:37,380
stuff

1817
01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:41,880
and um I said well is there any way you

1818
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:43,800
could prove this to me

1819
01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:46,320
and she said well pick up one of your

1820
01:23:52,370 --> 01:23:48,659
books that you know what I haven't read

1821
01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:52,380
and okay I got a book and I handed it to

1822
01:23:58,010 --> 01:23:55,260
her scientific book right

1823
01:24:00,050 --> 01:23:58,020
and she opened she put it between her

1824
01:24:02,750 --> 01:24:00,060
hands and she closed her eyes she

1825
01:24:04,430 --> 01:24:02,760
meditated for about a minute

1826
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:04,440
then she opened her eyes she handed it

1827
01:24:09,290 --> 01:24:05,760
to me

1828
01:24:12,410 --> 01:24:09,300
she said now open it up to any page

1829
01:24:13,729 --> 01:24:12,420
so that only you can see the page which

1830
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:13,739
I did

1831
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:16,560
and she said now tell me the page and I

1832
01:24:19,790 --> 01:24:17,280
did

1833
01:24:22,910 --> 01:24:19,800
and she started reciting line for line

1834
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:22,920
what the script was on that page

1835
01:24:27,229 --> 01:24:25,199
you know that's that's voodoo man yeah

1836
01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:27,239
what do you do with that what do you do

1837
01:24:32,450 --> 01:24:29,699
what do you do what do you do did you

1838
01:24:34,370 --> 01:24:32,460
freak out I mean if that was done in

1839
01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:34,380
years past somebody would get burned at

1840
01:24:39,169 --> 01:24:36,840
the stake that's right

1841
01:24:41,890 --> 01:24:39,179
and she moved objects and all sorts of

1842
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:41,900
things she had a um

1843
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:45,360
had developed three types of cancer in

1844
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,159
an eight-month period and had three

1845
01:24:52,189 --> 01:24:49,679
different surgeries to remove the cancer

1846
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:52,199
and and she left her disabled

1847
01:24:56,209 --> 01:24:53,400
well

1848
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:56,219
she um

1849
01:25:00,770 --> 01:24:58,140
would occasionally have excruciating

1850
01:25:02,990 --> 01:25:00,780
pain and her left leg where a lot of the

1851
01:25:04,850 --> 01:25:03,000
muscle and tendon had been removed

1852
01:25:06,729 --> 01:25:04,860
and whenever that happened glass around

1853
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:06,739
her was in Mortal Danger

1854
01:25:12,290 --> 01:25:10,080
and one time she was she dropped a match

1855
01:25:16,189 --> 01:25:12,300
into her the hole in her leg

1856
01:25:17,149 --> 01:25:16,199
and she cringed in in pain she's lying

1857
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,159
in bed

1858
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:19,440
he cringed the pain and the glass thick

1859
01:25:23,810 --> 01:25:21,420
glass ashtray next to her on the

1860
01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:23,820
nightstand it's exploded like a hangar

1861
01:25:29,649 --> 01:25:26,699
in ape and went across the room

1862
01:25:33,169 --> 01:25:29,659
then another time we were toasting a

1863
01:25:35,649 --> 01:25:33,179
wine wine glasses and we wanted to hook

1864
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,659
our arms together and I did

1865
01:25:40,729 --> 01:25:37,679
and uh

1866
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,739
she cringed in pain and the glass in her

1867
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:42,239
hand just completely shattered into

1868
01:25:48,169 --> 01:25:45,360
little pieces and fell to the floor

1869
01:25:51,709 --> 01:25:48,179
and on a third time we were on a trip

1870
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,719
from Houston up to New York to live

1871
01:25:55,790 --> 01:25:53,520
and I was working going to work at

1872
01:25:58,010 --> 01:25:55,800
Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory

1873
01:26:01,550 --> 01:25:58,020
and she had propped her bad leg up onto

1874
01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:01,560
the dashboard of the rider truck

1875
01:26:07,070 --> 01:26:04,920
and everything was going fine until she

1876
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,080
started cringing in pain and a

1877
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:09,600
Spiderwick crack appeared in the

1878
01:26:15,229 --> 01:26:12,719
windshield radiating out

1879
01:26:17,090 --> 01:26:15,239
so that's what I mean by glass was in

1880
01:26:20,990 --> 01:26:17,100
Mortal danger around her whenever she's

1881
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,000
in pain no kidding no kidding and

1882
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:23,580
um can we talk about nids for a second

1883
01:26:28,370 --> 01:26:25,800
sure

1884
01:26:30,350 --> 01:26:28,380
um uh have you been watching uh skin

1885
01:26:32,570 --> 01:26:30,360
walker Ranch who do you watch the TV

1886
01:26:34,189 --> 01:26:32,580
show yeah I'm one of the Insiders now

1887
01:26:37,610 --> 01:26:34,199
okay

1888
01:26:39,709 --> 01:26:37,620
um uh I've been doing a review of uh the

1889
01:26:42,649 --> 01:26:39,719
new episodes with Christina Gomez each

1890
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:42,659
week and following closely what's going

1891
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,760
along and

1892
01:26:49,070 --> 01:26:46,560
um as you can imagine I know most of the

1893
01:26:52,209 --> 01:26:49,080
players right uh throughout the years

1894
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:52,219
and and have interviewed many

1895
01:27:00,050 --> 01:26:56,159
uh and uh on and off the air uh about

1896
01:27:03,950 --> 01:27:00,060
Skinwalker you got involved uh back in

1897
01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:03,960
the early 2000s 2004 2004. how did that

1898
01:27:08,209 --> 01:27:05,940
happen how did you how did you get

1899
01:27:11,570 --> 01:27:08,219
connected uh with Bigelow

1900
01:27:12,830 --> 01:27:11,580
I was uh irritating some people you if

1901
01:27:14,510 --> 01:27:12,840
you're familiar with all those people

1902
01:27:17,450 --> 01:27:14,520
it's gonna Walker Ranch you know that

1903
01:27:18,370 --> 01:27:17,460
Bigelow was heavily connected to the

1904
01:27:21,169 --> 01:27:18,380
government

1905
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,179
and uh Harry Reid and all of the other

1906
01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:23,760
stuff he's getting money from NSA to be

1907
01:27:29,209 --> 01:27:25,620
able to do his a lot of his work he

1908
01:27:31,250 --> 01:27:29,219
wasn't spending his own money any rate

1909
01:27:32,810 --> 01:27:31,260
what surprised me when I started working

1910
01:27:38,209 --> 01:27:32,820
there is to find out how many people

1911
01:27:40,729 --> 01:27:38,219
that he hired were former FBI NSA CIA

1912
01:27:42,590 --> 01:27:40,739
employees

1913
01:27:44,570 --> 01:27:42,600
and saying why does he need all these

1914
01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:44,580
different people what is what are the

1915
01:27:49,070 --> 01:27:46,260
connection between all of that well yeah

1916
01:27:51,649 --> 01:27:49,080
can I can I ask you really quick we're

1917
01:27:53,689 --> 01:27:51,659
going to get that how did you how did

1918
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,699
you meet Bigelow how did how did that

1919
01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:54,960
happen

1920
01:28:00,169 --> 01:27:59,340
uh column Kelleher Dr Kelleher gave me a

1921
01:28:04,490 --> 01:28:00,179
phone call

1922
01:28:07,250 --> 01:28:04,500
back in October of uh 2002.

1923
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:07,260
oh no 2003 I'm sorry

1924
01:28:11,689 --> 01:28:08,880
and

1925
01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:11,699
he asked me uh uh I said we have a

1926
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:13,260
position opening up

1927
01:28:17,930 --> 01:28:15,360
in at Ned's and wondered whether or not

1928
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:17,940
I'd be interested in in taking it he

1929
01:28:22,330 --> 01:28:20,880
said that Bigelow wants to uh shut down

1930
01:28:23,870 --> 01:28:22,340
nids

1931
01:28:35,450 --> 01:28:23,880
and

1932
01:28:38,510 --> 01:28:35,460
you come on board uh you can um uh he'll

1933
01:28:40,430 --> 01:28:38,520
keep it in what position uh that you

1934
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,440
were like one of the administrators yeah

1935
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:43,440
right the Deputy Administrator of nibs

1936
01:28:48,169 --> 01:28:46,320
nids right but but Bigelow would not

1937
01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:48,179
allow me to go to the ranch or allow me

1938
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:50,460
to do field work he just kept me

1939
01:28:58,430 --> 01:28:53,520
basically chained to a desk in Las Vegas

1940
01:29:03,110 --> 01:28:58,440
in Las Vegas right at his office in this

1941
01:29:05,390 --> 01:29:03,120
and uh it is when after four months

1942
01:29:08,990 --> 01:29:05,400
everything seemed to be going well and

1943
01:29:11,870 --> 01:29:09,000
then suddenly uh Kelleher informs me

1944
01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:11,880
that Bigelow is shedding the the nids

1945
01:29:18,530 --> 01:29:14,639
down and that your services are nowhere

1946
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:18,540
longer needed so I was shoved out onto

1947
01:29:24,169 --> 01:29:22,320
the street basically

1948
01:29:27,709 --> 01:29:24,179
um

1949
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:27,719
and I look back on that Jimmy and I

1950
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,420
realized that there's something

1951
01:29:33,890 --> 01:29:32,880
um you know that's just not right about

1952
01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:33,900
this

1953
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,980
that I was pulled uh west of the

1954
01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:40,440
Mississippi River away from my field

1955
01:29:44,950 --> 01:29:43,320
area because somebody wanted me out of

1956
01:29:47,330 --> 01:29:44,960
New York

1957
01:29:49,070 --> 01:29:47,340
what what did you

1958
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,080
um yeah that's interesting isn't it

1959
01:29:54,169 --> 01:29:51,600
that's that's real interesting

1960
01:29:56,270 --> 01:29:54,179
um what did you uh I don't know if you

1961
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,280
can share this but

1962
01:30:02,510 --> 01:29:58,880
um what did you learn uh about

1963
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:02,520
Skinwalker uh that you uh you know about

1964
01:30:06,770 --> 01:30:04,560
the phenomena that is is going on there

1965
01:30:11,450 --> 01:30:06,780
that you can share with us in that brief

1966
01:30:14,990 --> 01:30:11,460
period at mids okay uh Eric Davis uh he

1967
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:15,000
helped uh introduce me to uh nids and

1968
01:30:20,030 --> 01:30:17,040
its crew uh the people that he had been

1969
01:30:23,629 --> 01:30:20,040
working with on on the research team

1970
01:30:25,610 --> 01:30:23,639
that had preceded me that research team

1971
01:30:27,229 --> 01:30:25,620
had been disbanded for the most part

1972
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:27,239
even though some of the people such as

1973
01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:31,620
Jacques valet and John and Alexander and

1974
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:35,340
and himself were all still part of Ned's

1975
01:30:41,450 --> 01:30:36,480
um

1976
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,460
they wanted uh you know he he told me

1977
01:30:45,470 --> 01:30:43,679
about what they had done and comb

1978
01:30:48,590 --> 01:30:45,480
Kelleher explained a lot of the things

1979
01:30:51,890 --> 01:30:48,600
to me that what they had discovered okay

1980
01:30:55,310 --> 01:30:51,900
at at skinwalker and all of that

1981
01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:55,320
information has since come out in in uh

1982
01:31:00,830 --> 01:30:57,600
George Knapp and call him Kelleher's

1983
01:31:03,290 --> 01:31:00,840
book you know a lot of the same stuff

1984
01:31:05,390 --> 01:31:03,300
that's in there I was told when I was

1985
01:31:07,729 --> 01:31:05,400
there so there's nothing really

1986
01:31:10,129 --> 01:31:07,739
um extraordinary other than what you're

1987
01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:10,139
seeing now on the Skinwalker Ranch show

1988
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:12,600
they're finding more things going on

1989
01:31:18,290 --> 01:31:16,639
there now than Bigelow ever found

1990
01:31:22,430 --> 01:31:18,300
the

1991
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:22,440
um how much should uh Eric Davis know

1992
01:31:28,129 --> 01:31:25,920
because at that time it's you know

1993
01:31:31,129 --> 01:31:28,139
history man history is a [\h__\h] isn't it

1994
01:31:33,709 --> 01:31:31,139
because you get to learn the truth and

1995
01:31:35,810 --> 01:31:33,719
here we are in uh 2023 we know that uh

1996
01:31:37,010 --> 01:31:35,820
What uh three years ago four years ago

1997
01:31:38,770 --> 01:31:37,020
three years ago the Wilson Davis

1998
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:38,780
document surfaced

1999
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:43,500
and uh and which was written uh you know

2000
01:31:48,830 --> 01:31:47,040
transcription of by Eric Davis in 2002.

2001
01:31:52,850 --> 01:31:48,840
you arrived on the scene there at mids

2002
01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:52,860
in late 2003 and 2004 right a document

2003
01:31:59,689 --> 01:31:55,440
was already written

2004
01:32:03,649 --> 01:31:59,699
um was was Eric Davis a part of nid's

2005
01:32:06,530 --> 01:32:03,659
still or had he left mids uh in 2003.

2006
01:32:08,330 --> 01:32:06,540
well you you realize that Eric Davis and

2007
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:08,340
Hal putoff are still part of that whole

2008
01:32:13,209 --> 01:32:09,320
team

2009
01:32:15,850 --> 01:32:13,219
yes so yeah there

2010
01:32:19,370 --> 01:32:15,860
nobody has left that bed

2011
01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:19,380
exactly exactly

2012
01:32:25,189 --> 01:32:22,260
um and uh Eric Davis interestingly

2013
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:25,199
enough told me about another ranch with

2014
01:32:31,370 --> 01:32:28,020
a lot of paranormal activity in it this

2015
01:32:34,430 --> 01:32:31,380
one in Nevada not in Utah

2016
01:32:40,430 --> 01:32:34,440
okay it's in central Nevada it's called

2017
01:32:44,510 --> 01:32:42,709
Bigelow purchased it

2018
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:44,520
and then he sold it

2019
01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:47,520
and he and he said Eric Davis told me

2020
01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:49,800
there's all sorts of paranormal activity

2021
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:51,420
going on there

2022
01:32:56,930 --> 01:32:52,800
and now

2023
01:33:02,149 --> 01:32:56,940
it was uh purchased by

2024
01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:04,250
what is this last name

2025
01:33:12,430 --> 01:33:07,199
Jeff Jeff

2026
01:33:20,810 --> 01:33:16,790
right any rate yeah he um he see current

2027
01:33:24,649 --> 01:33:20,820
owner he got it through uh inheritance

2028
01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:24,659
and he's opened that ranch up to uh

2029
01:33:29,810 --> 01:33:27,000
James Keenan who's gone out there and

2030
01:33:32,270 --> 01:33:29,820
done an instrument study of it and found

2031
01:33:33,950 --> 01:33:32,280
all sorts of Paranormal Activity and

2032
01:33:36,709 --> 01:33:33,960
you've probably heard of Carl the

2033
01:33:38,030 --> 01:33:36,719
crusher right I do I Know Carl well I I

2034
01:33:40,669 --> 01:33:38,040
know of him

2035
01:33:43,010 --> 01:33:40,679
yeah he's doing a lot of research out

2036
01:33:45,649 --> 01:33:43,020
there on that Ranch now he's finding

2037
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:45,659
some amazing stuff yeah absolutely James

2038
01:33:53,209 --> 01:33:48,560
James Keenan uh who I know pretty well

2039
01:33:56,030 --> 01:33:53,219
uh James is uh very focused I think you

2040
01:33:58,910 --> 01:33:56,040
know his intentions are real and uh he's

2041
01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:58,920
a very talented guy I like James a lot

2042
01:34:03,649 --> 01:34:01,199
me too well you realize he's from El

2043
01:34:07,129 --> 01:34:03,659
Paso right I do I do he's he's a good

2044
01:34:11,090 --> 01:34:07,139
dude he's a good dude oh yeah now uh

2045
01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:11,100
What uh specifically uh do you think is

2046
01:34:19,970 --> 01:34:15,920
underneath the the Mesa at skinwalker

2047
01:34:22,669 --> 01:34:19,980
I've let my mind wander my imagination

2048
01:34:24,530 --> 01:34:22,679
try I I could I can go in any direction

2049
01:34:26,930 --> 01:34:24,540
but ultimately what do you think is

2050
01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:26,940
there well you can connect the dots as

2051
01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:29,340
well as I can okay and based on the

2052
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:32,159
information that they have so far uh

2053
01:34:37,370 --> 01:34:34,080
revealed about the drilling about the

2054
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,380
metal flakes about the uh strange uh

2055
01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:39,600
Elemental composition of those metal

2056
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:43,440
flakes about the uh strange Tower uh

2057
01:34:49,490 --> 01:34:46,920
invisible tower that goes up over uh

2058
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:49,500
whatever it is in the ground

2059
01:34:52,550 --> 01:34:50,159
um

2060
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:52,560
and uh Carl the crusher is finding

2061
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:55,620
something similar out on an identical

2062
01:35:03,290 --> 01:35:00,000
um Mesa a near uh the Mount Wilson Ranch

2063
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:03,300
he has a whole video on it where uh his

2064
01:35:10,669 --> 01:35:06,480
Mesa lights up with infrared at night

2065
01:35:12,890 --> 01:35:10,679
and so does the Mesa at Skinwalker Ranch

2066
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:12,900
so there's some interesting things in

2067
01:35:17,930 --> 01:35:15,600
common now how is it that uh Bigelow

2068
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:17,940
should have zeroed in on these two

2069
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:19,260
locations

2070
01:35:24,590 --> 01:35:21,600
and purchase those ranches

2071
01:35:27,709 --> 01:35:24,600
then then there's evidence that as James

2072
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:27,719
has told me that this study of that area

2073
01:35:34,490 --> 01:35:31,520
has goes back decades before that before

2074
01:35:35,930 --> 01:35:34,500
anybody knew that these were paranormal

2075
01:35:38,450 --> 01:35:35,940
hot spots

2076
01:35:40,490 --> 01:35:38,460
and the government was was involved he

2077
01:35:41,930 --> 01:35:40,500
did a very good job of not answering the

2078
01:35:46,910 --> 01:35:41,940
question though

2079
01:35:48,410 --> 01:35:46,920
what do you think is underneath the Mesa

2080
01:35:51,050 --> 01:35:48,420
okay

2081
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:51,060
I think it's alien yeah

2082
01:35:59,870 --> 01:35:55,679
and uh did you if you go on my web pages

2083
01:36:02,629 --> 01:35:59,880
I did a 24 square mile magnetic survey

2084
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,639
uh with a proton magnetometer around

2085
01:36:07,070 --> 01:36:04,080
Pine Bush

2086
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,080
and I published it okay now what is

2087
01:36:12,770 --> 01:36:09,360
interesting is that I found when I first

2088
01:36:14,689 --> 01:36:12,780
went out there with this instrument that

2089
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:14,699
there were these magnetic pulses coming

2090
01:36:18,350 --> 01:36:16,800
out of the ground everywhere in near

2091
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:18,360
Pine Bush

2092
01:36:22,490 --> 01:36:20,880
and I had my instrument checked out and

2093
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:22,500
it checked out fine it was nothing wrong

2094
01:36:27,649 --> 01:36:24,780
with it when I went back all those

2095
01:36:29,149 --> 01:36:27,659
magnetic pulses had disappeared

2096
01:36:32,090 --> 01:36:29,159
but then we found that they would

2097
01:36:34,250 --> 01:36:32,100
occasionally come back in one area

2098
01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:34,260
around a Jewish cemetery

2099
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:36,719
and I would come back to that location

2100
01:36:41,390 --> 01:36:38,639
every time I went out into the field to

2101
01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:41,400
do a survey collects more data I had

2102
01:36:47,330 --> 01:36:44,760
1800 different stations throughout that

2103
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,340
24 square mile area

2104
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:50,159
um I found uh all sorts of wild things

2105
01:36:55,010 --> 01:36:52,800
underground you know Ellen Crystal had

2106
01:36:57,169 --> 01:36:55,020
said that the aliens were underground

2107
01:36:58,490 --> 01:36:57,179
she believed they're living Underground

2108
01:37:02,830 --> 01:36:58,500
and

2109
01:37:05,330 --> 01:37:02,840
they're using magnetic technology

2110
01:37:07,850 --> 01:37:05,340
electromagnetism we could should be able

2111
01:37:09,290 --> 01:37:07,860
to detect them and boy did I detect them

2112
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:09,300
a lot

2113
01:37:15,310 --> 01:37:13,199
but I also detected uh beams coming out

2114
01:37:17,870 --> 01:37:15,320
of a ground in a triangular formation

2115
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:17,880
underneath this Jewish cemetery in the

2116
01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:19,440
neighboring Farm

2117
01:37:23,810 --> 01:37:22,020
and whenever the constellation booties

2118
01:37:27,770 --> 01:37:23,820
was overhead

2119
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:27,780
and um and and on occasion

2120
01:37:34,010 --> 01:37:29,760
um I've had people tell me that they're

2121
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:34,020
Sky watching at this location and

2122
01:37:39,950 --> 01:37:37,440
um uh a plane one case a plane turned

2123
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:39,960
early going to Stewart Airport it was a

2124
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,480
beacon on a nearby Ridge and normally

2125
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:44,639
the planes would align up with the

2126
01:37:48,530 --> 01:37:46,560
runway on the other side of the valley

2127
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,540
using that Beacon

2128
01:37:54,770 --> 01:37:50,400
well this time this plane took a

2129
01:37:58,129 --> 01:37:54,780
shortcut and flew directly over that

2130
01:37:59,450 --> 01:37:58,139
um Cemetery guess what happened a beam

2131
01:38:01,970 --> 01:37:59,460
of white light came out of the ground

2132
01:38:05,450 --> 01:38:01,980
and painted the bottom of the aircraft

2133
01:38:08,209 --> 01:38:05,460
as it flew over and then disappeared

2134
01:38:11,450 --> 01:38:08,219
did you say booties booties yes

2135
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:11,460
constellation booties Now isn't that

2136
01:38:17,209 --> 01:38:13,199
interesting

2137
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:17,219
very I mean for for a lot of different

2138
01:38:22,490 --> 01:38:20,880
reasons I'll bring up one

2139
01:38:25,930 --> 01:38:22,500
um you're probably aware of this but

2140
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:25,940
this is for for the audience uh

2141
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:29,100
the Black Knight satellite

2142
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:31,679
all right Black Knight satellite when it

2143
01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:37,280
was first detected uh by Tesla and the

2144
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,620
messages that were decoded uh by

2145
01:38:44,649 --> 01:38:42,719
gentlemen in Sweden and this was in

2146
01:38:46,870 --> 01:38:44,659
1922.

2147
01:38:50,689 --> 01:38:46,880
uh that

2148
01:38:53,629 --> 01:38:50,699
they those that put that satellite there

2149
01:38:56,330 --> 01:38:53,639
that is observing us came from the

2150
01:38:58,850 --> 01:38:56,340
constellation duties and that was that

2151
01:39:03,050 --> 01:38:58,860
was in 1922

2152
01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:03,060
um and then in uh another document

2153
01:39:10,370 --> 01:39:05,340
surfaced I have it here it was an NSA

2154
01:39:13,610 --> 01:39:10,380
document uh from 1969 1970

2155
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:13,620
um about radio signals and how to

2156
01:39:18,770 --> 01:39:17,280
translate an alien message that would

2157
01:39:21,530 --> 01:39:18,780
come from

2158
01:39:22,970 --> 01:39:21,540
the constellation booties wow it's like

2159
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:22,980
wait a minute wait a minute wait a

2160
01:39:28,610 --> 01:39:25,920
minute these these these connections

2161
01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:28,620
connection connections and when I uh

2162
01:39:32,209 --> 01:39:30,239
these signals that were coming out of

2163
01:39:35,570 --> 01:39:32,219
the ground I could

2164
01:39:39,410 --> 01:39:35,580
with my proton magnetometer sensors walk

2165
01:39:41,810 --> 01:39:39,420
Orient the disease a distant magnetic

2166
01:39:44,750 --> 01:39:41,820
signal and then when I got up close to

2167
01:39:47,149 --> 01:39:44,760
them I could stick the instrument into

2168
01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:47,159
the beam when it was firing and these

2169
01:39:51,410 --> 01:39:48,900
there are three beams coming out of the

2170
01:39:54,050 --> 01:39:51,420
ground at the corners of a triangular

2171
01:39:56,990 --> 01:39:54,060
craft that was nine feet below the

2172
01:39:59,209 --> 01:39:57,000
surface uh when Bill Burns brought his

2173
01:40:01,910 --> 01:39:59,219
crew out there the UFO Hunters they

2174
01:40:03,169 --> 01:40:01,920
brought a a GPR

2175
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:03,179
um and they

2176
01:40:09,229 --> 01:40:07,199
literally imaged the the uh a huge

2177
01:40:10,370 --> 01:40:09,239
triangular craft that's at least 20 feet

2178
01:40:12,770 --> 01:40:10,380
thick

2179
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:12,780
it's embedded in the underlying rock

2180
01:40:17,570 --> 01:40:16,080
that is 400 million years old

2181
01:40:20,030 --> 01:40:17,580
embedded

2182
01:40:22,209 --> 01:40:20,040
it landed on an island at that time

2183
01:40:24,530 --> 01:40:22,219
because so what I my magnetic survey

2184
01:40:27,229 --> 01:40:24,540
demonstrated was that there were these

2185
01:40:30,169 --> 01:40:27,239
ancient Islands in a sea in the area

2186
01:40:34,729 --> 01:40:30,179
that had been all covered over and then

2187
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:34,739
through uplift and erosion of those

2188
01:40:38,990 --> 01:40:35,760
um

2189
01:40:41,090 --> 01:40:39,000
alien probes mining probes had landed on

2190
01:40:42,530 --> 01:40:41,100
some of the islands now what's important

2191
01:40:44,689 --> 01:40:42,540
about this

2192
01:40:46,370 --> 01:40:44,699
is that I found these signals coming out

2193
01:40:47,090 --> 01:40:46,380
of the ground at other locations in the

2194
01:40:49,490 --> 01:40:47,100
valley

2195
01:40:53,090 --> 01:40:49,500
on other Islands

2196
01:40:54,410 --> 01:40:53,100
so just like a Skinwalker Ranch with all

2197
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,420
that stuff coming out of there there's

2198
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:56,639
something in the ground and here I found

2199
01:41:01,070 --> 01:40:59,280
them in the ground as well in Pine Bush

2200
01:41:05,629 --> 01:41:01,080
and

2201
01:41:06,430 --> 01:41:05,639
there's a mine uh at the New York New

2202
01:41:12,770 --> 01:41:06,440
Jersey

2203
01:41:15,890 --> 01:41:12,780
border of that goes down several miles

2204
01:41:17,390 --> 01:41:15,900
um and it is for all the Exotic minerals

2205
01:41:20,510 --> 01:41:17,400
that they pull out of these ancient

2206
01:41:22,970 --> 01:41:20,520
granitic masses that have all this weird

2207
01:41:26,570 --> 01:41:22,980
they have hundreds of different kinds of

2208
01:41:27,530 --> 01:41:26,580
uh exotic minerals that come out in rare

2209
01:41:29,450 --> 01:41:27,540
Earths

2210
01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:29,460
from this mine

2211
01:41:34,430 --> 01:41:31,500
and um

2212
01:41:36,649 --> 01:41:34,440
and all of these granitic masses that I

2213
01:41:39,169 --> 01:41:36,659
was detecting in the valley

2214
01:41:42,350 --> 01:41:39,179
through my the magnetic survey

2215
01:41:45,229 --> 01:41:42,360
were similar types of features that had

2216
01:41:48,169 --> 01:41:45,239
formed when the Earth was very young

2217
01:41:50,930 --> 01:41:48,179
long before complex multicellular life

2218
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:50,940
had had evolved on the planet

2219
01:41:57,709 --> 01:41:54,719
so these mine mining probes were

2220
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:57,719
apparently trying to extract that and

2221
01:42:01,550 --> 01:42:00,119
then they stayed there and became

2222
01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:01,560
beacons

2223
01:42:08,290 --> 01:42:05,280
firing out into the sky right well you

2224
01:42:11,810 --> 01:42:08,300
want to know why the area around

2225
01:42:14,450 --> 01:42:11,820
Pine Bush is so active with UAP

2226
01:42:19,070 --> 01:42:14,460
it's because there's these beacons that

2227
01:42:23,689 --> 01:42:19,080
are firing out at booties constantly

2228
01:42:26,689 --> 01:42:23,699
and and what about uh okay for something

2229
01:42:29,570 --> 01:42:26,699
to I've thought the same thing for

2230
01:42:32,570 --> 01:42:29,580
something to be underneath the Mesa uh

2231
01:42:37,970 --> 01:42:32,580
at Skinwalker you've also got blind frog

2232
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:37,980
Ranch you've got uh uh Wilson in Nevada

2233
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:41,280
um there's a a place in Alabama too as

2234
01:42:46,850 --> 01:42:43,440
well you have Joshua tree out here where

2235
01:42:51,290 --> 01:42:46,860
these these things happen

2236
01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:51,300
um but uh for for them to be there

2237
01:42:57,890 --> 01:42:55,320
underneath uh a Mesa like Skinwalker and

2238
01:43:01,609 --> 01:42:57,900
other areas it's it's got to be really

2239
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:01,619
really old I mean old well I'll I'll

2240
01:43:07,070 --> 01:43:04,560
give you put in some archaeological data

2241
01:43:08,030 --> 01:43:07,080
to support that okay

2242
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:08,040
um

2243
01:43:12,050 --> 01:43:10,080
when Ellen Crystal took me out of the

2244
01:43:14,090 --> 01:43:12,060
field we went to the one location at the

2245
01:43:16,189 --> 01:43:14,100
dog leg Bend in West Seattle Road you'll

2246
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:16,199
hear me or read me talking about that

2247
01:43:21,649 --> 01:43:19,199
location all the time and there was a

2248
01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:21,659
farmhouse right next door and the wild

2249
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:24,360
family lived there and I thought oh that

2250
01:43:30,290 --> 01:43:26,719
was a great name wild

2251
01:43:32,570 --> 01:43:30,300
w-i-l-d-e and um they owned all the land

2252
01:43:34,729 --> 01:43:32,580
they've subsequently sold much of the

2253
01:43:37,490 --> 01:43:34,739
land for housing development but

2254
01:43:39,530 --> 01:43:37,500
uh when we went out there we kept on

2255
01:43:41,930 --> 01:43:39,540
seeing all of this these lights coming

2256
01:43:43,850 --> 01:43:41,940
up out of the ground and and then once

2257
01:43:46,250 --> 01:43:43,860
they the craft got to a certain altitude

2258
01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:46,260
they took off to the South or they would

2259
01:43:50,450 --> 01:43:48,000
come in from the south or come in from

2260
01:43:52,430 --> 01:43:50,460
the west and they'd dive down into the

2261
01:43:54,830 --> 01:43:52,440
uh that area and I said what's over

2262
01:43:58,330 --> 01:43:54,840
there why are they all there

2263
01:44:03,229 --> 01:43:58,340
well then on the uh

2264
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:03,239
29th of April 1993 Ellen had been

2265
01:44:10,490 --> 01:44:07,440
contacted by the producers of sightings

2266
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,500
the television show and they wanted to

2267
01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:13,199
come and do a piece on her and me and

2268
01:44:17,570 --> 01:44:15,659
they came out there and when they were

2269
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:17,580
filming this Jimmy

2270
01:44:24,290 --> 01:44:20,880
sixcraft showed up right before cameras

2271
01:44:27,290 --> 01:44:24,300
put on a spectacular performances flew

2272
01:44:30,649 --> 01:44:27,300
out the cameras been around flew back

2273
01:44:34,430 --> 01:44:30,659
over the woods and dove into the forest

2274
01:44:37,310 --> 01:44:34,440
all on camera got these amazing and uh

2275
01:44:39,169 --> 01:44:37,320
Ellen got great video I got great time

2276
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:39,179
exposures I have a whole website on it

2277
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:41,040
called the performance

2278
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,260
and um

2279
01:44:47,390 --> 01:44:44,880
but they didn't

2280
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:47,400
only published a still frame of one of

2281
01:44:52,430 --> 01:44:49,679
the of the manta ray when it flew over

2282
01:44:54,290 --> 01:44:52,440
us it was the size of 747. yeah that

2283
01:44:57,250 --> 01:44:54,300
manta ray photograph is friggin

2284
01:45:00,530 --> 01:44:57,260
incredible I do I have it

2285
01:45:05,209 --> 01:45:00,540
the one with the beams that come out am

2286
01:45:06,830 --> 01:45:05,219
I if if I pop this up here uh am I I

2287
01:45:09,169 --> 01:45:06,840
think I have it

2288
01:45:12,950 --> 01:45:09,179
um is it okay if I show it sure go right

2289
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:12,960
in man what did I do with that that's an

2290
01:45:16,669 --> 01:45:15,840
incredible photograph I mean I I still

2291
01:45:22,430 --> 01:45:16,679
don't

2292
01:45:25,850 --> 01:45:22,440
was the craft oh as I said the wingspan

2293
01:45:27,770 --> 01:45:25,860
of a 747. yeah and a long tail on the

2294
01:45:28,729 --> 01:45:27,780
back of it it doesn't have a nose out

2295
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,739
the front

2296
01:45:33,169 --> 01:45:30,960
but it can move its lights around on its

2297
01:45:36,050 --> 01:45:33,179
on its craft if you go to the the

2298
01:45:39,229 --> 01:45:36,060
sighting that the video that we uh took

2299
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:39,239
um in near Salt Point New York

2300
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:42,239
um what east of the Hudson River on the

2301
01:45:48,890 --> 01:45:46,560
20th of august 19 I'm in 2003 that is

2302
01:45:51,709 --> 01:45:48,900
perhaps the best picture of of the manta

2303
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:51,719
ray and what it did and how you can see

2304
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:53,520
everything that's happening with here

2305
01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:55,920
all the sounds it makes the other thing

2306
01:46:02,170 --> 01:45:58,560
that uh Jack sarfati you've heard of him

2307
01:46:06,530 --> 01:46:03,709
[Laughter]

2308
01:46:07,729 --> 01:46:06,540
and uh well he's called me his

2309
01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:07,739
Whittington

2310
01:46:18,770 --> 01:46:14,760
that uh confirmed Einstein's concept of

2311
01:46:22,310 --> 01:46:18,780
uh uh you know planetary masses are Sons

2312
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:22,320
bending light and uh because

2313
01:46:26,209 --> 01:46:24,239
the sounds that these crafts would

2314
01:46:29,570 --> 01:46:26,219
produce and they would be all artificial

2315
01:46:32,830 --> 01:46:29,580
sounds we're all reverse Doppler

2316
01:46:35,450 --> 01:46:32,840
they were completely

2317
01:46:37,609 --> 01:46:35,460
non-normal physics and they've

2318
01:46:39,169 --> 01:46:37,619
subsequently found that metamaterial

2319
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:39,179
Halls that are associated with

2320
01:46:45,370 --> 01:46:43,679
anti-gravity craft reverse invert the

2321
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:45,380
image of the sounds that come off them

2322
01:46:50,270 --> 01:46:48,000
and that's exactly what I have in many

2323
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:50,280
of my web pages the uh if you go to my

2324
01:46:56,270 --> 01:46:53,040
web pages on reverse Doppler you'll get

2325
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:56,280
that information that proves that these

2326
01:47:01,790 --> 01:46:58,080
are not conventional aircraft they're

2327
01:47:02,750 --> 01:47:01,800
not uh Alien reproduction vehicles at

2328
01:47:04,250 --> 01:47:02,760
all

2329
01:47:04,850 --> 01:47:04,260
so

2330
01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:04,860
um

2331
01:47:10,430 --> 01:47:07,199
and the other thing that I wanted to

2332
01:47:13,250 --> 01:47:10,440
just mention here is telepathy

2333
01:47:15,470 --> 01:47:13,260
how was it that the these craft would

2334
01:47:18,350 --> 01:47:15,480
even at a distance of a half a mile to a

2335
01:47:19,970 --> 01:47:18,360
mile from me would know exactly when I

2336
01:47:22,490 --> 01:47:19,980
was opening and closing the shutter of

2337
01:47:28,430 --> 01:47:25,910
and they would produce some squiggles or

2338
01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:28,440
oscillations of their light to indicate

2339
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,080
when my shutter opened right after it

2340
01:47:34,729 --> 01:47:33,600
opened and just before it closed right

2341
01:47:38,090 --> 01:47:34,739
after it opened you know you could

2342
01:47:41,209 --> 01:47:38,100
perhaps smize well they they had a nice

2343
01:47:43,970 --> 01:47:41,219
you know you know Optics or audio

2344
01:47:46,970 --> 01:47:43,980
detection but

2345
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:46,980
before I close the shutter

2346
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:49,440
I did a series of experiments and found

2347
01:47:55,070 --> 01:47:52,080
out that when I stopped thinking and I

2348
01:47:58,430 --> 01:47:55,080
stopped talking out loud

2349
01:48:01,310 --> 01:47:58,440
they couldn't read my mind yeah yeah I

2350
01:48:02,870 --> 01:48:01,320
you know I I don't want to I Love The

2351
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:02,880
woo

2352
01:48:09,310 --> 01:48:06,480
um and some things I just have to keep

2353
01:48:13,250 --> 01:48:09,320
inside of my head I don't want to talk

2354
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:13,260
because it's it's it sounds too nuts

2355
01:48:19,870 --> 01:48:17,360
but there is too much of a coincidence

2356
01:48:25,370 --> 01:48:19,880
too much of a connection

2357
01:48:30,290 --> 01:48:25,380
to uh the the appearance of something

2358
01:48:32,209 --> 01:48:30,300
and by the time you think right and

2359
01:48:35,930 --> 01:48:32,219
thinking is the speed of light right

2360
01:48:40,750 --> 01:48:35,940
okay right that fast but it by the time

2361
01:48:45,010 --> 01:48:40,760
you think camera phone video audio

2362
01:48:48,770 --> 01:48:45,020
the thought it's gone yes it's it's

2363
01:48:52,850 --> 01:48:48,780
that's not that's not a coincidence

2364
01:48:55,129 --> 01:48:52,860
you know and uh

2365
01:48:56,990 --> 01:48:55,139
I've got I've got plenty of thoughts on

2366
01:48:58,609 --> 01:48:57,000
this I would love to maybe we can talk

2367
01:48:59,870 --> 01:48:58,619
off the air

2368
01:49:01,970 --> 01:48:59,880
um because I just don't want to sound

2369
01:49:04,729 --> 01:49:01,980
like the crazy person that that used to

2370
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:04,739
call into my show right now I've given

2371
01:49:09,169 --> 01:49:06,719
up on that a long time ago you know I

2372
01:49:11,450 --> 01:49:09,179
know I know I know it's fast what

2373
01:49:15,410 --> 01:49:11,460
um uh uh can I ask you about the because

2374
01:49:17,629 --> 01:49:15,420
you were talking about the beams uh and

2375
01:49:22,189 --> 01:49:17,639
and the signals uh what's up with this

2376
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:22,199
1.6 terahertz uh signal at Skinwalker oh

2377
01:49:25,970 --> 01:49:23,280
wow

2378
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:25,980
that's that's a good one most of the

2379
01:49:32,930 --> 01:49:30,480
sounds that these craft uh produce are a

2380
01:49:35,390 --> 01:49:32,940
lesson less than a Hertz I mean they're

2381
01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:35,400
very low low frequencies not these very

2382
01:49:40,430 --> 01:49:37,920
high frequencies right right right and

2383
01:49:43,010 --> 01:49:40,440
so that that's very puzzling I think

2384
01:49:45,169 --> 01:49:43,020
it's to keep them thinking and trying to

2385
01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:45,179
figure things out

2386
01:49:50,050 --> 01:49:47,880
um that's more like a carrot dangling in

2387
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:50,060
front of them

2388
01:49:58,430 --> 01:49:54,320
well it's got to be

2389
01:50:02,390 --> 01:49:58,440
I'm not a scientist but I Know audio

2390
01:50:04,070 --> 01:50:02,400
um it seems like it's a carrier signal

2391
01:50:07,609 --> 01:50:04,080
yeah that's that's what I think I think

2392
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:07,619
that there was something in there

2393
01:50:13,790 --> 01:50:10,560
um that we haven't figured out yet right

2394
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:13,800
and it could be a communication tool but

2395
01:50:18,590 --> 01:50:16,080
it could also be a beacon of some kind

2396
01:50:21,050 --> 01:50:18,600
uh too as well

2397
01:50:23,570 --> 01:50:21,060
um but I I I don't know but it's a very

2398
01:50:26,090 --> 01:50:23,580
specific frequency you know it's 1.6

2399
01:50:28,669 --> 01:50:26,100
terahertz and it's not moving around and

2400
01:50:30,890 --> 01:50:28,679
there doesn't appear to be anything on

2401
01:50:33,970 --> 01:50:30,900
either side of it of significance right

2402
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:33,980
it's just right there peaking at 1.6

2403
01:50:39,709 --> 01:50:36,960
it's I I can't figure this one out but I

2404
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,719
think that there's something in that in

2405
01:50:43,490 --> 01:50:41,760
that you know something's being carried

2406
01:50:48,709 --> 01:50:43,500
in in that wave

2407
01:50:50,689 --> 01:50:48,719
very well could be I mean I I

2408
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:50,699
thought that the magnetic signals coming

2409
01:50:56,209 --> 01:50:53,040
out of the ground and they were magnetic

2410
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:56,219
uh of 30 to 50 percent of the Earth's

2411
01:51:02,209 --> 01:50:58,560
total magnetic field

2412
01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:02,219
um when the uh UFO owners came and they

2413
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:04,800
had their own magnetometers and they

2414
01:51:10,430 --> 01:51:07,320
were checking around Above This

2415
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:10,440
triangular buried triangular craft and

2416
01:51:16,970 --> 01:51:14,400
they got 1.7 uh Gauss

2417
01:51:21,530 --> 01:51:16,980
it was so powerful that was coming out

2418
01:51:24,109 --> 01:51:21,540
of there and I told I said to my friend

2419
01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:24,119
who's Scott stride who works for JPL and

2420
01:51:30,410 --> 01:51:26,340
he designed the telecommunication system

2421
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:30,420
for the Mars rover and he I he gave me

2422
01:51:35,930 --> 01:51:33,360
an analysis of what was coming out of

2423
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:35,940
the ground he said those magnetic beams

2424
01:51:39,950 --> 01:51:38,400
that you detected which were about two

2425
01:51:43,250 --> 01:51:39,960
feet in diameter

2426
01:51:45,590 --> 01:51:43,260
said they were not carrier signals they

2427
01:51:49,550 --> 01:51:45,600
were not sending signals to some place

2428
01:51:51,590 --> 01:51:49,560
he said the three of them were guides

2429
01:51:53,450 --> 01:51:51,600
for a central

2430
01:51:57,410 --> 01:51:53,460
signal that was coming out of the middle

2431
01:51:59,090 --> 01:51:57,420
of that triangle and uh I have friends

2432
01:52:00,890 --> 01:51:59,100
that said they've seen that beam of

2433
01:52:01,810 --> 01:52:00,900
light coming out of the ground right in

2434
01:52:04,609 --> 01:52:01,820
the middle

2435
01:52:06,590 --> 01:52:04,619
that's the carrier signal that would be

2436
01:52:07,970 --> 01:52:06,600
going if I wish I could get back to her

2437
01:52:11,149 --> 01:52:07,980
and put instruments there and check

2438
01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:11,159
maybe it's a 1.6 terahertz who knows uh

2439
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,320
yeah I I misspoke it's not terahertz

2440
01:52:20,030 --> 01:52:16,320
it's a gigahertz right

2441
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,040
um and I had heard I'm watching the chat

2442
01:52:26,090 --> 01:52:22,080
too as well

2443
01:52:28,970 --> 01:52:26,100
um uh everybody is pretty smart here it

2444
01:52:32,750 --> 01:52:28,980
says here's a PDF USA frequency spectrum

2445
01:52:35,689 --> 01:52:32,760
allocations you will have to zoom in the

2446
01:52:38,330 --> 01:52:35,699
1.6 gigahertz error hold on for a second

2447
01:52:40,910 --> 01:52:38,340
man let me just pop it up here the 1.6

2448
01:52:44,030 --> 01:52:40,920
gigahertz area fifth uh gravity to the

2449
01:52:45,410 --> 01:52:44,040
left is labeled three gigahertz but I

2450
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,420
think somebody said that it's a

2451
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,520
satellite carrier oh here it is this is

2452
01:52:52,010 --> 01:52:49,440
this is Bill one of our moderators Bill

2453
01:52:55,629 --> 01:52:52,020
thank you for this 1.6 gigahertz is

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allocated to satellite to ground

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signaling data also Airborne aircraft

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radar Direction and rain finding to

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other traffic and terrain yes I looked

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01:53:11,570 --> 01:53:08,400
it up thank you for that bill now isn't

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01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:11,580
that interesting okay very very

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huh

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In My Bones Bruce that something's about

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01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:23,520
to break something's about to

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01:53:28,010 --> 01:53:25,440
about but once these dominoes start to

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01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:28,020
fall uh they're all gonna fall and and

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01:53:31,010 --> 01:53:29,280
we're gonna start getting some answers

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01:53:33,410 --> 01:53:31,020
here pretty quick

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01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:33,420
well that would be nice

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01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:36,480
yes I agree where can everybody reach

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01:53:41,390 --> 01:53:37,679
out to you

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01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:41,400
okay they can reach out to me at my

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01:53:46,609 --> 01:53:44,639
email address which is uh cornetbruce

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yahoo.com

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01:53:51,530 --> 01:53:49,440
and I would prefer that one or they can

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01:53:53,090 --> 01:53:51,540
call me should I give out my phone

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01:53:56,510 --> 01:53:53,100
number no you don't want to do your

2476
01:53:58,729 --> 01:53:56,520
phone number on this show but uh uh okay

2477
01:54:02,510 --> 01:53:58,739
and then we've got uh links to some of

2478
01:54:04,430 --> 01:54:02,520
your research papers uh uh and stuff

2479
01:54:05,930 --> 01:54:04,440
over on our website and certainly in the

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01:54:08,270 --> 01:54:05,940
video description below what a

2481
01:54:10,970 --> 01:54:08,280
fascinating conversation tonight thank

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01:54:13,010 --> 01:54:10,980
you I look forward uh to you uh coming

2483
01:54:16,209 --> 01:54:13,020
onto the show again we can continue all

2484
01:54:20,330 --> 01:54:16,219
of this thank you so much okay

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I I haven't uh said everything no I know

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01:54:26,209 --> 01:54:24,119
I know I know this is uh this has to

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01:54:28,910 --> 01:54:26,219
continue Bruce thank you so much and

2488
01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:28,920
again keep rolling that rock uphill okay

2489
01:54:36,290 --> 01:54:32,719
will do thank you sir great conversation

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and uh now uh heading into the weekend

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01:54:41,390 --> 01:54:38,639
uh we've got an amazing week lined up

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01:54:43,310 --> 01:54:41,400
for Fade to Black next week uh those

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announcements will come over the weekend

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I want everybody to be safe and and have

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01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:49,560
wonderful weekend like I just I let

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everybody know River Moon coffee is on

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01:54:55,850 --> 01:54:54,480
their way to my home right now it's

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01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:55,860
going to be a great weekend over here

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